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Trey Kay, Samantha Gattsek Published July 23, 2026 - 12:29 pm

Us & Them: Who Can Call Morgantown Home?

Housing is becoming less affordable for many people. As a result, more cities and towns grapple with growing homeless populations. Hundreds of cities across the nation now have laws that prohibit camping on public property to discourage encampments and illegal activity.

On this episode of Us & Them, host Trey Kay moderates a community conversation in Morgantown about that city’s approach to housing. Morgantown is one of five West Virginia cities with a public camping ban. Local advocates say there are twice as many homeless people as there are shelter beds available.

This year, lawmakers did not have the votes to pass a statewide camping ban, but some leaders say that’s a better approach than patchwork local measures.

This episode of Us & Them is presented with support from the CRC Foundation.

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Two posters on display on a table. — A poster for “Unhoused in Morgantown: Barriers and Solutions” is displayed at an information table during the community forum at West Virginia University’s Mountainlair. The event brought together local service providers and advocates to discuss homelessness, housing barriers and public policy in Morgantown.

*Photo Credit: Mountaineer Indivisible Citizens Action Group*

Five people sit on a stage in chair. They are speaking before an audience. Behind them is a projector screen with text. There are several people in the audience with their backs to the camera. — *Us & Them* host **Trey Kay**, left, moderates “Unhoused in Morgantown: Barriers and Solutions,” a community forum at the Gluck Theatre in West Virginia University’s Mountainlair. Joining Kay on the panel, from left, are **the Rev. Zac Morton** of First Presbyterian Church, **Laura Jones** of Milan Puskar Health Right, **Erin Shelton** of Project Rainbow and Rainbow House, and **Mindy Thorne** of Catholic Charities West Virginia.

*Photo Credit: Mountaineer Indivisible Citizens Action Group*

A Black man stands at a standing mic holding a red piece of paper. He wears glasses and is dressed in business casual. He points toward the panelists off camera. — **Ron Allen**, a member of the Mountaineer Indivisible Citizens Action Group and one of the organizers of “Unhoused in Morgantown: Barriers and Solutions,” welcomes the audience to the Gluck Theatre in West Virginia University’s Mountainlair.

*Photo Credit: Mountaineer Indivisible Citizens Action Group*

A white man with white hair sits comfortably in a chair in an auditorium. He looks on toward the stage. Behind him are other seated people attending the event. — **Richard Dennis**, a member of the Mountaineer Indivisible Citizens Action Group and one of the organizers of “Unhoused in Morgantown: Barriers and Solutions,” listens to the panel discussion at the Gluck Theatre in West Virginia University’s Mountainlair.

*Photo Credit: Mountaineer Indivisible Citizens Action Group*

Two panelists, a man and a woman, are seated on a stage. The man is holding a microphone and is mid-sentence. He is gesturing with his hand. The woman looks on, listening. — **The Rev. Zac Morton** of First Presbyterian Church speaks during “Unhoused in Morgantown: Barriers and Solutions,” a community forum at West Virginia University, as Laura Jones of Milan Puskar Health Right listens. Morton discussed how local churches collaborate to help people experiencing homelessness and the barriers that can make it difficult for them to secure housing.

*Photo Credit: Mountaineer Indivisible Citizens Action Group*

“We’re seeing a report card on how well our society is doing at caring for other people, and we’re not getting a very good grade. Instead of dealing with that fundamental problem, a lot of people don’t want to examine it because it requires work, introspection and a recognition that decades of bad policy have brought us here.”

— The Rev. Zac Morton

A close up of an older woman wearing glasses. She is also wearing a plaid poncho. — **Laura Jones**, executive director of Milan Puskar Health Right, speaks during a community forum about homelessness in Morgantown. Jones discussed the connections between unstable housing, trauma and health.

*Photo Credit: Mountaineer Indivisible Citizens Action Group*

“Every single person who is unhoused is unique. There is no one way people behave and no single reason people end up in this situation, other than the fact that we do not have affordable, low-income housing. Once someone becomes unhoused, that experience itself is often traumatic, making it even harder to do everything required to get back into housing.”

— Laura Jones

A woman with pink hair and facial piercings speaks into a microphone as she sits in a chair on a stage. She is wearing a black sweater. — **Erin Shelton**, founder and board president of Project Rainbow and Rainbow House, speaks during a community forum about homelessness in Morgantown. Shelton advocates for low-barrier services for people who are often excluded from traditional programs.

*Photo Credit: Mountaineer Indivisible Citizens Action Group*

“A lot of the things people see that make them uncomfortable are symptoms of homelessness. If we educate ourselves and meet people, we humanize them. Once you meet people, they are not scary anymore. They are people. They are your neighbors, your community members and your friends.”

— Erin Shelton

An older woman sits in a chair on a stage. She wears a black blazer, glasses, and jeans. — **Mindy Thorne**, a director with Catholic Charities West Virginia, speaks during a community forum about homelessness in Morgantown. Thorne works with Grace Shelter, a low-barrier shelter at Hazel’s House of Hope that provides emergency housing and individualized case management.

*Photo Credit: Mountaineer Indivisible Citizens Action Group*

“These policies were made without an understanding of the consequences. There was no plan that said, ‘We are going to put this camping ban in place, and these services will be available instead.’ There was none of that. It was simply, ‘We’re done.’”

— Mindy Thorne

A balding man with a brown bears sits at a desk and looks at the screen of a laptop. He is formally dressed with a black blazer and blue tie. — **Del. Geno Chiarelli**, R-Monongalia, reviews material during a meeting of the House Public Health Subcommittee at the West Virginia Capitol in Charleston on Feb. 4, 2026. Chiarelli sponsored legislation seeking to prohibit syringe service programs and a separate bill proposing a statewide ban on camping on certain public property.

*Photo Credit: Perry Bennett/WV Legislative Photography*

“I don’t think that more people jailed is necessarily a measure of success. But if vandalism goes down, if syringe litter decreases, if people stop having their homes broken into and their packages stolen, I think those are indicators that the camping ban would be working.”

— Del. Geno Chiarelli

Two women sit next to each other on a stage. The woman on the left has pink hair, while the woman on the right has grayish hair. They both appear to be listening to someone speaking. — **Erin Shelton**, left, and **Mindy Thorne** listen during “Unhoused in Morgantown: Barriers and Solutions,” a community forum at the Gluck Theatre in West Virginia University’s Mountainlair.

*Photo Credit: Mountaineer Indivisible Citizens Action Group*

“When elected officials make policy in response to a community’s discomfort and fear of people experiencing homelessness, they are not actually responding. They are reacting.”

— Erin Shelton

Two men are seated on a stage. The man on the left is Us & Them host Trey Kay. He is speaking into a microphone and gesturing toward the audience. — *Us & Them* host **Trey Kay** speaks to the audience during “Unhoused in Morgantown: Barriers and Solutions” as the Rev. Zac Morton listens at the Gluck Theatre in West Virginia University’s Mountainlair.

Photo Credit: Mountaineer Indivisible Citizens Action Group

“Part of the homelessness question is who we are willing to see in our communities, who we turn away from and what kind of community we want to be.”

— Trey Kay

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