Charleston Baker Solves A Family Food Mystery And Creates A New Twist On ‘Ooey-Gooey’ Bread Recipe

There’s nothing like the smell of freshly baked cinnamon rolls straight out of the oven. A baker in West Virginia borrows from her Finnish family roots to put a new twist on this traditional treat. Folkways Reporter Zack Harold has the story.

This story originally aired in the Jan. 19, 2025 episode of Inside Appalachia.

Sometimes, when I open my front door, I find a little aluminum pie plate there on my front step. Without looking, I know what’s under the clear plastic lid: several little cinnamon rolls, drenched in icing. 

But this isn’t the work of Doordash or UberEats. It’s a delivery from my down-the-street neighbor Kim Kerr. She makes these cinnamon rolls — and a lot of other good stuff — to sell at farmers markets around Charleston, West Virginia through her small business Whimsy and Willows

She brings my family the ugly, misshapen ones that she can’t sell. But I can attest, they taste just fine.

After a couple years of these surprise deliveries, I finally asked her how she got into the cinnamon roll business. The story, it turns out, involved some real detective work. She invited me and my microphone over to hear the tale while she made a batch.

This all started when Kerr and her husband Patrick launched their business. It was a little rough going at first. 

“We started with jam and realized everybody has jam,” Kerr says. “I like baking, so I was like ‘Well, I will get some of Sylvia’s recipes.’ Because she had phenomenal recipes.”

Sylvia Iuukko-Mann is Kerr’s great aunt. And she was the family baker. Whether she came to visit Kerr’s parents, or they saw her at family reunions in Massachusetts, Sylvia was always baking up a storm.

“We would have to go to the store with Sylvia and buy packets of yeast and buy all of this stuff,” Kerr says.

Kim Kerr points to her great-aunt Sylvia Iuukko-Mann — the family baker — on a hand-drawn family tree.

Photo Credit: Zack Harold/West Virginia Public Broadcasting

She made everything, from dinner rolls to gargantuan wedding cakes. But her speciality — and the family’s favorite — was nisu, a sweet braided cardamom-flavored yeast bread native to Finland.

“Finnish people are big on drinking coffee, so it’s a coffee bread. So it was just always, always there,” Kerr says.

Like nisu, Kerr’s family is originally from Finland. Her great-grandfather Matti Iuukko, Sylvia’s father, immigrated from there as part of a wave of European immigration in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. 

While Matti and his family ended up in Massachusetts, a small but mighty group of Finns ended up in central Appalachia. These Finnish immigrants made their home largely in southwestern Pennsylvania, where they established community groups, churches and even a support organization to help one another pay for medical expenses and funerals. An offshoot of that group moved down to Weirton, Clarksburg and Charleston to work in steel mills and foundries. 

The Finnish culture here disappeared as people either moved off when the work dried up or stayed and assimilated into the larger culture. Kerr’s family, meanwhile, was able to stay connected to their roots and often attended Finnish heritage festivals down in Florida, where nisu was a regular feature. But none of it tasted quite as good Sylvia’s.

“Hers is more ooey-gooey, is the best way we can describe it,” Kerr says.

She wanted to bring some of that ooey-gooey goodness to her farmers market stand. There were just a few problems. For one, she’d never made nisu before — or any kind of bread. But more importantly, Sylvia wasn’t around anymore to teach her how to make it. 

Kerr got in touch with one of Sylvia’s nieces, the family’s de facto historian. She was able to track down one of Sylvia’s recipe cards. But it wasn’t quite complete. 

The card listed the ingredients. It told Kerr what temperature to set her oven to. But it contained no directions. Kerr took what information she could glean from that card and filled in the gaps with nisu recipes she found online, and made her first attempt at her childhood favorite.

“It wasn’t a disaster but it wasn’t right,” she says.

It wasn’t that ooey, gooey texture she remembered. So she reached out to Larry Mann, one of Sylvia’s sons. He found another incomplete recipe. This one had ingredients, but not the measurements for them, though it did have the steps. 

“She taught enough people that I was able to put it kinda sorta together,” Kerr says.

This new recipe fragment revealed a few of Sylvia’s tricks. The milk must be almost boiling, and have butter melted into it. And unlike what some online recipes say, you can’t add everything to the stand mixer at once. 

The first batch she made following her dear aunt Sylvia’s order of operations turned out perfect. It was just as ooey and gooey as she remembered. Sylvia’s son Larry agreed.

“He comes to visit us every few years and he will say ‘This is just like my mother’s. This is my mother’s,’” Kerr says. “The first time he said that I was like, ‘Good. We nailed it.’”

In reviving her family favorite, Kerr — who moved to West Virginia in 2007 — had also unknowingly brought back a dish that once would have been common in certain parts of the state.

Kerr places a freshly-braided loaf of nisu on a baking sheet, ready for the oven.

Photo Credit: Zack Harold/West Virginia Public Broadcasting

It wasn’t long after Kerr cracked the nisu code that inspiration struck for a new twist on the family favorite. 

It was 2020. Like all of us, Kerr was stuck at home during COVID lockdowns. She got a hankering for some cinnamon rolls, but couldn’t go anywhere to get them. So she decided to make her own.

“I’m looking up recipes for cinnamon rolls and it’s calling for yeast bread,” Kerr says. “And I thought, ‘I don’t know how to make yeast bread.’” But I know how to make nisu which has yeast and it’s a bread. I wonder if I can make that into a cinnamon roll.”

Instead of forming the dough into long snakes and braiding it together, as she does for nisu, Kerr rolled the dough into a flat square and covered it with melted butter and a cinnamon-sugar mixture. She rolled it into a log, cut that log into medallions and put those medallions in pie pans to rise for about 45 minutes. Then she put them in the oven.

It turns out that sweet, ooey-gooey nisu dough made perfect cinnamon rolls. There was still one piece missing, though. She needed icing to go on top. 

Kerr originally considered a cream cheese icing, but West Virginia cottage food laws forbid items that require refrigeration. She went online and found a recipe for a shelf stable alternative. It involves a whole bunch of sugar, a whole stick of melted butter and four teaspoons of vanilla.

“But I kind of cheat and do more than four,” Kerr says.

Those ingredients get whipped together in the stand mixer and drizzled generously over piping hot cinnamon rolls.

“Nobody’s ever eaten a cinnamon roll and said ‘That’s too much icing,’” Kerr says. “We’ve seen otherwise prim and proper people who will lick the pan when they think no one’s looking.”

It wasn’t long before the cinnamon rolls — which Kerr’s husband dubbed “Finn-amon” rolls — became her most popular item. 

Kerr prepares a pan of “Finn-amon” rolls for the oven.

“I think my favorite compliment was the teenage boy who took a sample. He was definitely a farm boy and had his boots and everything,” Kerr says. “He turned around and came back and said ‘These are the best cinnamon rolls I’ve ever had in my life’ and bought some more.”

Kerr is now taking steps to make sure this new family favorite isn’t lost to time, as great-aunt Sylvia’s recipe almost was. Her 13-year-old son Jackson has recently shown an interest in baking, so she plans to put him to work on the Finn-amon roll assembly line. 

But if anyone else in the family wants to give it a try…they might run into an issue.

“I don’t have an actual recipe that I follow, I just mix it together,” Kerr says. “I should write it down. I will have to do that.”

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This story is part of the Inside Appalachia Folkways Reporting Project, a partnership with West Virginia Public Broadcasting’s Inside Appalachia. Subscribe to the podcast to hear more stories of Appalachian folklife, arts and culture.

Family Recipes, Water Trouble And ‘Peerless City,’ Inside Appalachia

This week on Inside Appalachia, a Virginia Tech researcher challenges deeply held ideas about the purity of natural springs. Also, we meet the folks behind Angelo’s Old World Italian Sausage. They still use a family recipe that’s been handed down from generation to generation for over a century. Customers love it.

This week, a Virginia Tech researcher challenges deeply held ideas about the purity of natural springs.

Also, we meet the folks behind Angelo’s Old World Italian Sausage. They still use a family recipe that’s been handed down from generation to generation for over a century. Customers love it.

You’ll hear these stories and more this week, Inside Appalachia.

In This Episode:


The Story Of Angelo’s Old World Italian Sausage

Angelo’s Old World Sausage is available in stores in West Virginia, Ohio and Kentucky.

Credit: Zack Harold/West Virginia Public Broadcasting

Angelo’s Old World Italian Sausage is from a family recipe that goes back over a century to the Calabria region in southern Italy. It’s become a grocery store favorite in West Virginia. 

Folkways Reporter Zack Harold spoke with the makers of Angelo’s Old World Italian Sausage and heard a story about sausage-making spanning generations.

Water Woes And The Trouble With Spring Water

It’s an old story in Appalachia: failing water systems leaving people afraid to drink from their taps. In McDowell County, West Virginia, people have relied on bottled water and mountain springs for decades, but maybe those alternate sources aren’t so pure.

Researchers at Virginia Tech have been looking into water inequity in the region. Mason Adams spoke with professor Leigh-Anne Krometis about what she’s found.

A Picture Of Peerless City 

“Peerless City” is a documentary about Portsmouth, Ohio, a city that’s been alternatively described as the place “where southern hospitality begins” and “ground zero for the opioid epidemic.”

Filmmakers Amanda Page and David Bernabo wanted to go beyond slogans, though. Bill Lynch recently spoke with them about the film, and about Portsmouth’s complexity.

Inflation Hits Eastern Kentucky Hard

Recent reports show inflation is down from what it’s been over the last two years, but people in places like Letcher County, Kentucky are still feeling the pinch.

WEKU’s John McGary has the story.

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Potato Candy: Chasing A Taste Memory In West Virginia

Lots of recipes get passed down and shared in Appalachia through handwritten note cards. Sometimes they’re stuffed in little tin boxes, others in loose leaf cookbooks. For the recipient of such a family heirloom, the recipes can be a way to connect with the past. But some of those old recipes don’t use exact measurements. So how do you know you’re getting it right? For Brenda Sandoval in Harper’s Ferry, West Virginia, it involved some trial and error, and a little help from a cousin.

This story originally aired in the March 26, 2023 episode of Inside Appalachia.

Lots of recipes get passed down and shared in Appalachia through handwritten note cards. Sometimes they’re stuffed in little tin boxes, others in loose leaf cookbooks. For the recipient of such a family heirloom, the recipes can be a way to connect with the past. But some of those old recipes don’t use exact measurements. So how do you know you’re getting it right? For Brenda Sandoval in Harper’s Ferry, West Virginia, it involved some trial and error, and a little help from a cousin.

A few years ago, Sandoval was gifted an old recipe book filled with family recipes, including her grandmother’s recipe for potato candy. 

“It was [my grandmother’s] handwriting on a piece of paper, and it was P, period, candy. So the two P ingredients were the potato and the peanut butter…and the confectioner’s sugar, but she had a side note of things that she added, which were salt, milk and vanilla,” shared Sandoval.  

Potato candy is a food icon across Appalachia. It became popular during the Great Depression because it was cheap and easy to make. This sugary sweet confection is usually comprised of just three inexpensive ingredients: peanut butter, powdered sugar and of course, potatoes. The candy looks like a reverse pumpkin log, with a brown swirl of peanut butter wrapped in the white pasty potato mix.  When it is sliced, some people say the pieces look like pinwheels. 

Sandoval testing the consistency of the potato mixture. Credit: Capri Cafaro/West Virginia Public Broadcasting

Like many heirloom recipes, Sandoval’s family potato candy recipe did not use units like cups or teaspoons. Instead, her grandmother listed her additional ingredients as a dash of vanilla, a pinch of salt and four splashes of milk.  

While Sandoval had never eaten her grandmother’s potato candy, she wanted to see if she could recreate the recipe. She was now on a mission to make her grandmother’s potato candy recipe taste like the real deal. And getting it right wasn’t easy.  

Sandoval needed to convert her grandmother’s units of measurement into something she could understand and replicate.  This took a lot of trial and error. At times, the process was frustrating. The potato candy kept missing the mark.  

Sandoval was chasing a taste memory, and it kept evading her. Eventually she enlisted her cousin Valerie Bovee in the pursuit to get this family recipe right. Unlike Sandoval, Bovee actually tasted her grandmother’s potato candy. She remembers how it tasted when she ate it on Christmas Eve.

Sandoval and Bovee work together closely, with Bovee tasting each batch and Sandoval adjusting the ingredients based on Bovee’s feedback.  

“As you’re testing it, you’re trying to match it to what grandma’s was. That’s the flavor you got to try to find…which is hard to explain exactly what that taste is, but it’s definitely that Grandma’s House Christmas Eve taste,” explains Bovee. “[Sandoval] trusts me that I know what it should taste like and when it is good.” 

Sandoval with the splashes of milk and pinch of salt. Credit: Capri Cafaro/West Virginia Public Broadcasting

Their collaboration worked. Sandoval’s determination and Bovee’s taste memory led to a breakthrough. Finally, Sandoval said that Bovee exclaimed, “This, this is right. Whatever you did, keep doing this.” 

These days, Sandoval has mastered her family’s potato candy recipe. She had made it for a shop called True Treats in Harper’s Ferry, West Virginia and now also sells the candy directly to the community. Yet, it is clear that potato candy is more than just a sweet treat to Sandoval. It’s about preserving tradition, and holding onto family memories.

Sandoval says making the candy can sometimes be an emotional experience for her as she reflects on her family while she’s going through the process, “I like to take my time and think about my grandmother or my ancestors as I’m baking it. And I think that’s coming from the heart.”

She also hopes people feel as nostalgic as she does when they eat her potato candy.  

“I want people to taste it, remember it, think about your grandma or your aunt that’s no longer here that did it. Or maybe they are still here and you just don’t get to visit with them, but it’s something that would take them back,” Sandoval said.

Both Sandoval and her cousin Bovee are committed to keeping their family’s potato candy taste memory alive by continuing to pass the recipe and it’s intangible feeling down to future generations.  

Bovee says now that she and her cousin have managed to perfect the candy, she wants to make sure she “gets the recipe down pat” to pass along to her children and grandchildren. “I just want us to be able to all get together, have good scenery memories, have fun making it together and enjoying it together.”

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This story is part of the Inside Appalachia Folkways Reporting Project, a partnership with West Virginia Public Broadcasting’s Inside Appalachia and the Folklife Program of the West Virginia Humanities Council.

The Folkways Reporting Project is made possible in part with support from Margaret A. Cargill Philanthropies to the West Virginia Public Broadcasting Foundation. Subscribe to the podcast to hear more stories of Appalachian folklife, arts and culture.

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