The Return Of The Headless Man And The Murdered Girl
Mike Allen And The Button Bin
Mike Allen is an award-winning science fiction, fantasy and horror writer based in Roanoke, Virginia. Besides writing, Mike also runs Mythic Delirium, a micropress that “specializes in speculative fiction and poetry, with a penchant for writing that’s challenging to classify.”
Mason Adams visited Mike to talk about fantasy and horror and to hear excerpts from one of his stories.
Molly Born And The Spooky Old Tunnel
Spooky stories can be about people, but sometimes they’re just about a place. In Mingo County, West Virginia there’s an old single-lane railroad tunnel that’s become a local legend.
Back in 2018, reporter Molly Born ventured inside the Dingess tunnel to find out what makes it so unsettling.
Ghost Story
Some people are afraid of ghosts. Others want to figure out ways to communicate with them – like Anita Allen, a writer and paranormal investigator in Roanoke.
Mason Adams talked to her about a couple of her ghost encounters.
Another Ghost Story
Haunted places dot Appalachia – moonlit hollers, mist-shrouded cemeteries, and dusty buildings that hold unspoken secrets. Playwright and theater director Dan Kehde knows just such a place in Charleston, West Virginia.
Return Of the Headless Man And The Murdered Girl
James Froemel, an actor and storyteller in Morgantown, West Virginia brought us two stories from Ruth Anne Musick.
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Our theme music is by Matt Jackfert. Other music this week was provided by The Animals, Amy Lavere, Jason Isbell, Gerry Milnes, Sierra Ferrel, Southern Culture on the Skids and Red Sovine.
Bill Lynch is our producer. Zander Aloi is our associate producer. Our executive producer is Eric Douglas. Kelley Libby is our editor. Our audio mixer is Patrick Stephens.
You can send us an email: InsideAppalachia@wvpublic.org.
Hurricane Helene dumped nearly 30 inches of rain in parts of western North Carolina and east Tennessee. Communities are reeling from the devastation. We check-in with Lilly Knoepp at Blue Ridge Public Radio in western North Carolina.
Also, a new book illustrates the tiny worlds of mountain critters, like a lizard that changes color.
AndWhite potters co-opted the African art of face jugs in the 1800s. A modern-day Black potter says his art can’t be replicated.
In This Episode
Hurricane Helene Hits Appalachia
Rosalie Haizlett Explores “Tiny Worlds”
Reclaiming An African Art
Hurricane Helene Hits Appalachia
As we were working on this week’s show, Hurricane Helene hit the Southeast. The storm washed away roads and bridges, knocked out power and cell service and left a trail of devastation. Many people are still missing, and the number of confirmed dead continues to rise. Mason Adams spoke with Blue Ridge Public Radio reporter Lilly Knoepp, who lives in western North Carolina, near where the storm caused the most damage.
Helene also rocked southwestern Virginia. Radio IQ’s Roxy Todd reported.
Rosalie Haizlett Explores “Tiny Worlds”
In 2022, nature artist Rosalie Haizlett set out on a trip to illustrate some of the tiny “critters” of the Appalachian mountains. Her illustrations became “Tiny Worlds of the Appalachian Mountains, an Artist’s journey.” Producer Bill Lynch spoke with Haizlett about the book.
Reclaiming An African Art
You’ve probably seen pottery with a face on it.
There are lots of examples of face-shaped vessels out there — from cheap souvenir shop knick-knacks to museum-quality pieces that can sell for millions of dollars.
Some are connected to African Face Jugs, an artform made by enslaved people in the deep South in the mid-1800s.
In 2023, Folkways reporter Zack Harold traced the story of Face Jugs, beginning in the basement pottery studio of West Virginia artist Ed Klimek.
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Our theme music is by Matt Jackfert. Other music this week was provided by Dinosaur Burps, Sierra Ferrell, Sean Watkins, Joe Dobbs and the 1937 Flood, Paul Loomis, Blue Dot Sessions
Bill Lynch is our producer. Zander Aloi is our associate producer. Our executive producer is Eric Douglas. Kelley Libby is our editor. Our audio mixer is Patrick Stephens. We had help this week from folkways editor Chris Julin. You can find us on Instagram and Twitter @InAppalachia.
You can send us an email: InsideAppalachia@wvpublic.org.
Got a horror book you’ve written that’s never seen the light of day or maybe a romance novel you’ve been working on for the last 10 years? Then check out GenreCon, a genre writers conference coming to DoubleTree Hilton in Huntington this weekend.
Bill Lynch caught up with the producers of the convention, Shelia Redling and Tobi Doyle.
Redling: I’m Sheila Redling. I write as S.G. Redling. I write primarily thrillers — sort of like mind-bending mayhem is my brand, but I also have some sci-fi and a little bit of urban fantasy, which are also mind-bending mayhem because I don’t like reality…
Doyle: Hi, I’m Tobi Doyle. I write romance. I also write romantic suspense and cozy mysteries.
Lynch: When did you start writing? When did you start doing genre fiction?
Redling: There’s a couple different answers to that. Was I writing that anyone was allowed to see it? Then, I’ve been writing my whole life. Writing for publication? Fifteen, maybe 20 years ago, I started taking it seriously as a craft. I read genre fiction primarily. So that’s what I wrote, because you always write the book you want to read.
Doyle: And I think I’ve been writing genre fiction. I’ve never written literary. It’s not my cup of tea, necessarily. And I probably started over 15-20 years ago, and just kept practicing and practicing and practicing.
Lynch: Talk about this convention. What’s it about?
Redling: We are so excited for GenreCon. Again, we’re both genre writers. There’s a lot of information out there for literary, for poetry, particularly in Appalachia. A lot of workshops are geared to the voice and the language and the lyricism of Appalachia. But we both really believe that genre writers should have a fair crack at getting published, and it’s hard to do if you can’t travel to San Francisco, New York, San Diego…
Doyle: Chicago… Boston, New York. There’s a lot of really good conferences out there for mystery or horror or sci fi, but it’s harder for us to travel. It’s harder right now to get noticed in the publishing world, since so many people are publishing. And it’s harder, especially in this area, to find agents and publishers willing to come here to take pitches and talk to people.
Redling: So, we’ve both been in the industry long enough. We know enough people in enough areas of the craft that we were able to ask some folks, “would you take pitches via zoom? Would you come in and do a workshop?” And that’s how it works. Like in any industry, you have to know some people, and you have to be generous with your contacts, and use those contacts to make it better for other people, to create opportunities.
Lynch: So who’s coming?
Redling: Oh my gosh, we have Aislyn Fredsall from Tor. Tor is the biggest publisher of sci-fi, horror. I mean, that is just like, “Ahhh.” When Toby said she got Tor to come take pitches, that’s amazing.
Doyle: That’s actually… We were thinking, are we going to have a conference or not? And my thought was, well, we need somebody to draw the writers in, because the writers aren’t going to attend a conference if they don’t have somebody to pitch to. So when we got Aislyn, we were like, All right, we’re having a conference.
Redling: We’re in! We also have Misty Simon coming in, doing a workshop on writing cozies. She is absolutely hilarious and really, really sharp. She understands the craft, and she understands the mentality you have to have to write a successful cozy series. And she’s very personable. So we’re excited to have her coming in. Jen Graybeal, who is like a writing coach and lifestyle management coach that Toby has used…
Doyle: Oh my god. Jen is actually one of the reasons we have story magic cards in the conference is because Jen Graybeal is an author’s coach. So not only is she an amazing editor, she specializes in romance, which is how I know her.
She also does these six-week “work-it” programs where she really gets into the psychology of “what do you want to get done,” “define what that success is,” and then you meet with her and a group of other people. And she has contacts. They have contacts and stuff happens.
As far as other agents we have coming. Carrie Blankenship-Kramer from Belcastro agency, Megan Frayser from Creative Media Agency, Andrea Hurst and her other agent, Katie Reed, from the Andrea Hurst agency, and then from Corvisiero Agency, we have Alexandra Grana and Catherine Ross.
And all of these people, we specifically reached out to make sure that all of the genres are covered. So, there’s people that are seeking sci-fi and horror. There’s some for literary, something for women’s fiction, romance…
Redling: And they are actively seeking work right now too. It’s not just like, “Yeah, we’ll hear pitches” and “Bye. Thanks.” They are looking for work. So if you pitch, they’re going to read what you send them.
Doyle: Well, if you go to the conference because most of these people are closed and only accepting queries through situations like this, because they get inundated. So, this is how they filter out how many pitches they get a month.
And that’s another thing we wanted to do was we have workshops that are aimed at people who are interested in self-publishing, and we have workshops aimed at people who are looking to find agents and publishers.
Lynch: Any tips for aspiring genre writers out there?
Redling: Read your genre and write.
Doyle: Yes, and my rule is read your genre, but it’s also the second one, which is for the love of all that is holy, please make sure that your goals, motivations and conflicts are tied to the characters’ emotional baggage.
Redling: Read and write.
Doyle: Yeah.
Redling: And then come to the conference.
Doyle: Yeah.
Redling: Don’t be don’t be afraid. If you’ve never finished a story and you’re thinking, “I’m going to be so out of my league.” You will not. This is a very low to the ground, very “only friendly” group. You’re going to fit right in. Take the chance and come.
GenreCon is Saturday and Sunday at the Doubletree Hilton in Huntington. Visit their website for more information.
Katherine Applegate’s book Wishtree was the book chosen by the county school division’s “One Division, One Book” community reading program. The schools distribute a copy of the same book to every family, with a schedule to read a few chapters each night. Midway through the reading, however, the school system abruptly suspended the program. School officials sent an email to families in March, saying community members had raised concerns about certain material in the book. The character in question? A 216-year-old red oak tree.
This conversation originally aired in the July 14, 2024 episode of Inside Appalachia.
Children’s author Katherine Applegate visited Floyd, Virginia, this spring after the school system canceled its “One Division, One Book” community reading program over concerns about the book’s main character — an oak tree.
Applegate’s book Wishtree was the book chosen by the county school division’s “One Division, One Book” community reading program. The schools distribute a copy of the same book to every family, with a schedule to read a few chapters each night. Midway through the reading, however, the school system abruptly suspended the program. School officials sent an email to families in March, saying community members had raised concerns about certain material in the book. The character in question? A 216-year-old red oak tree.
The program cancellation sparked an outcry among parents, which led to Applegate’s visit. Applegate is a prolific young adult and children’s book author. She won the 2013 Newbery Medal for her novel The One and Only Ivan. Wishtree came out in 2017. It’s told from the perspective of a red oak. It’s called a wishtree because there’s a community tradition where one day each year, people write wishes and hang them on the tree.
Inside Appalachia Host Mason Adams spoke with Applegate before her appearance at a library.
Adams: For people who haven’t read it, can you describe what your book Wishtree is about?
Applegate: You know, it’s funny; it’s about a lot of things. I always tell kids, once you read a book, it belongs to you. You find what you need in a story. But essentially, it’s about welcoming. It’s about a community that has had its share of immigrants over the years. And it is told from the point of view of a red oak tree, Red, who happens to be 216 rings old. And I decided to do that, A) because it would be fun. And I love playing with weird narrators. I had just come off doing Ivan the gorilla. So I figured I could handle it. And B) because a tree would have a really long perspective on the comings and goings of a community.
Adams: I’d love it if you’d read a little bit of Wishtree.
Applegate: “I was pleased to see Samar’s family join the neighborhood. It had been a little while since we’d had any newcomers. But I knew that with time they would put down roots, just like so many other families from so many other places.
“I know a thing or two about roots.
“One night not so long ago, Samar came out to visit. It was two in the morning. Late, even for her.
“She’d been crying. Her cheeks were damp. She leaned against me and her tears were like hot rain.
“In her hand was a small piece of cloth. Pink with little dots. Something was written on it.
“A wish. The first wish I’d seen in months.
“I wasn’t surprised she knew about the wishtree tradition. I’m kind of a local celebrity.
“Samar reached up, gently pulled down my lowest branch, and tied the fabric in a loose knot.
“‘I wish,’ she whispered, ‘for a friend.’
“She glanced over at the green house. Behind an upstairs curtain, a shadow moved.
“And with that, Samar vanished back into the little blue house.”
Adams: What was your inspiration for writing the book? Was there one thing?
Applegate: Yeah, definitely. And this has been true in a couple of occasions with things I’ve written. I was just talking to a group of kids at Blue Mountain School and told them, “Write from anger. Sometimes that’s where you get your very best ideas. The things you’re passionate about, or are curious or concerned or confused about. But especially things that make you angry.”
When I wrote The One and Only Ivan, I had just read a New York Times article about this gorilla — true story — who was stuck in a mall in Tacoma, Washington, and had been there for 27 years. I was outraged and wanted to write about it. Wishtree, the catalyst was an article again, this time about a family in Iowa City. They happened to be Muslim, they could have been any family. But they had just moved into a neighborhood and somebody put a big note on their door that said, “Go away.” I was just outraged, because we’re seeing so much of that. This was several years ago. And I’d like to say things have gotten better, but I’m not sure they have.
Adams: This book has been selected for community– and school-wide book programs across the US. What do you think it is that resonates with people that in turn makes it such a popular selection for these programs?
Applegate: It’s a huge honor, by the way, to have an entire school — you know, the crossing guard and the lunch lady, everybody reads the book. I regularly confess to kids that I was not much of a reader growing up. For me, the real gateway drug, if you will, was Charlotte’s Web. I just love that book. And I loved animals. I was absolutely sure I was going to be a vet when I grew up. So it was perfect for me.
After that, I started seeing the value of reading, but it took me a while. So the idea of a one-school read — I think if I’d had that when I was growing up really might have transformed my view of reading. Even if you don’t like the book. You don’t have to like the book, but you’re talking about it and everybody’s having the same experience.
With Wishtree, I hope it’s in part because it has some funny moments and some poignant moments, but especially because it’s so much about community and about how we protect each other and welcome each other. It fits really nicely into a school curriculum.
Adams: I happen to be a parent here, two kids in the Floyd County school system. And this year, Wishtree was selected for our “One Division, One Book” program. But partway through this year’s program, the school system sent out an email that noted, “Some of our community members are uncomfortable with the content in question … After careful consideration, we decided to suspend the “One Division, One Book” reading event. Families are welcome to continue reading the book on their own, but schools will not be hosting any corresponding activities.”
So it is chapter five that apparently caused the controversy. Would you mind reading that chapter?
Applegate: “Names aren’t the only way we differ from crows.
“Some trees are male. Some trees are female. And some like me, are both.
“It’s confusing, as is so often the case with nature.
“Call me she. Call me he. Anything will work.
“Over the years, I’ve learned that botanists — those lucky souls who study the lives of plants all day — call some trees, such as hollies and willows, ‘dioecious,’ which means they have separate male and female trees.
“Lots of other trees, like me, are called ‘monoecious.’ That’s just a fancy way of saying that on the same plant you’ll find separate male and female flowers.
“It is also evidence that trees have far more interesting lives than you sometimes give us credit for.”
Adams: Did this come as a surprise to you? And has it come up in other community book programs?
Applegate: Well, the first time I’d heard that Wishtree had been challenged, I was actually on a book tour last year and a kid in a bookstore audience asked me about it. And I had no idea what he [was] talking about. Apparently, it’s been challenged in Florida, it was featured in an Oscar-nominated short documentary last year called “The ABCs of Book Banning.” And in it, they have this lovely young Muslim girl reading a passage from Wishtree.
So that was my first clue that it had occasionally had some effect on people. This particular objection was new to me. And while it’s easy to laugh at, I think the undercurrent behind it is very clear.
Adams: What did you think when you heard about the Floyd County situation? You addressed it on your Facebook page. What was your initial reaction?
Applegate: I think what I found most disturbing was that the book was halfway through the process of this “One Division” read. So kids were well into reading it. And there was no explanation for why it was pulled. So the message clearly was, “Hey, there’s something wrong with this book. And you better not read it.” Which of course, is there’s no better way on earth to get a kid to read a book than to tell them that.
Adams: What have you heard from the community here? I mean, you’ve traveled here to speak. What led you to come here?
Applegate: This is what I hope people take from this. It has been absolutely miraculous the way parents have stepped up. And a parent reached out to me and said, “Hey, if you come, I have a B&B, you can stay at it.” Another one said, “Hey, I’m going to talk to the Roanoke Times and get this covered.” And another one said, “Hey, I will talk to the school board. I’ll do whatever you want.” It was remarkable. And the open arms with which I was welcomed, I just said, “Hey, you gotta go visit these kids.”
Adams: What would you tell kids who’ve been told they shouldn’t read your book?
Applegate: Here’s what I tell parents: If you don’t want your child to read a book, that is absolutely your right as a parent. If you don’t want your kid to participate in school sports or sex ed class, absolutely, your right. But you cannot tell my kids what they get to read and what they get to learn. And if I’m talking to kids, I say, “Yeah, read it. They don’t want you to read it; read it.” But you know, that’s just me.
Adams: What advice do you have for kids who want to be writers, too?
Applegate: I tell them again and again and again, “Embrace your weird.” The wonderful thing about illustrators and authors for children is we are, to a person, a little quirky. And I mean that in the best possible way. We look at the world differently. There’s such pressure when you’re growing up to become just like everyone else. And it’s that spark, that weirdness that often helps you look at the world in a new way. I often tell them about The One and Only Ivan, which halfway through I decided to throw out because I was convinced nobody would read a book about a gorilla. And then I realized, “You know what? I want to read a book about a gorilla! I’m going to stick with this.” And that’s how you have to approach your writing. You have to love what you’re writing. Don’t worry about your best friend. Write from your heart.
This week on Inside Appalachia, one person’s roadside weed is another’s “golden” treasure. So says a North Carolina fiber artist. We also talk with a children’s book author about a school system that suspended its community reading program over concerns about the sex of her book’s main character — an oak tree. And, Dolly Parton’s Imagination Library program is now available in every Kentucky community. We revisit our 2022 interview with the American icon.
This week, one person’s roadside weed is another’s “golden” treasure. So says a North Carolina fiber artist.
We also talk with a children’s book author about a school system that suspended its community reading program over concerns about the sex of her book’s main character — an oak tree.
And, Dolly Parton’s Imagination Library program is now available in every Kentucky community. We revisit our 2022 interview with the American icon.
You’ll hear these stories and more this week, Inside Appalachia.
Dolly Parton’s Imagination Library Continues To Grow
The Colors In The Weeds
Dede Styles in North Carolina uses common roadside plants to make natural dyes for fabrics. She teaches the craft, but it’s also part of a bigger mission for Styles.
Folkways Reporter Rebecca Williams brings us this story.
A Controversy About Wishtree
Floyd County schools in Virginia host a program called “One Division, One Book.” They distribute a copy of the same book to every family, with a schedule to read a few chapters each night. This year, the book was Wishtree, by Newbery Award winner Katherine Applegate, but partway through the reading, the school abruptly suspended the program.
Applegate recently visited Floyd and Mason Adams spoke with her.
Dolly Parton’s Imagination Library Continues To Grow
One program that’s connecting rural counties with books is pop icon Dolly Parton’s “Imagination Library.” Started in 1995, the childhood literacy program sends books to children all over the world at no charge to their families.
Last month, the program became available to all children aged five and under in Kentucky.
When that happened in West Virginia in 2022, Dolly Parton visited Charleston and spoke with former WVPB Executive Producer Suzanne Higgins.
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Our theme music is by Matt Jackfert. Other music this week was provided by Sturgill Simpson, Todd Burge, Joe Dobbs and the 1937 Flood, Jeff Ellis, John Inghram, Dolly Parton and Gerry Milnes.
Bill Lynch is our producer. Zander Aloi is our associate producer. Our executive producer is Eric Douglas. Kelley Libby is our editor. Our audio mixer is Patrick Stephens. We had help this week from Folkways editor Jennifer Goren.
You can send us an email: InsideAppalachia@wvpublic.org.
On this West Virginia Week, we spend some time in the Eastern Panhandle and learn about a new Battlefield Park, hear from a Harpers Ferry author and explore the unknown future of the John Brown Wax Museum. We also travel to Morgantown to experience a Silent Book Club, and then south to Logan County to check out the hopes riding on the inaugural Governor’s School for Tourism.
On this West Virginia Week, we spend some time in the Eastern Panhandle and learn about a new Battlefield Park, hear from a Harpers Ferry author and explore the unknown future of the John Brown Wax Museum.
We also travel to Morgantown to experience a Silent Book Club, and then south to Logan County to check out the hopes riding on the inaugural Governor’s School for Tourism.
In other news this week, we learn the latest on the health of the coal industry in West Virginia, check in on a campaign to improve foster care, hear from the state Board of Education meeting and visit an archeological dig in Malden.
Liz McCormick is our host this week. Our theme music is by Matt Jackfert.
West Virginia Week is a web-only podcast that explores the week’s biggest news in the Mountain State. It’s produced with help from Bill Lynch, Briana Heaney, Chris Schulz, Curtis Tate, Emily Rice, Eric Douglas, Jack Walker, Liz McCormick and Maria Young.