Checking In With A Ukrainian Musician On This West Virginia Morning

On this West Virginia Morning, one year ago, Inside Appalachia introduced us to Ukrainian folk musician Vsevolod Sadovyj for a story about the Appalachian Dulcimer. Folkways Reporter Clara Haizlett caught up with him recently to see how things have changed after more than a year of war.

On this West Virginia Morning, one year ago, Inside Appalachia introduced us to Ukrainian folk musician Vsevolod Sadovyj for a story about the Appalachian Dulcimer. Folkways Reporter Clara Haizlett caught up with him recently to see how things have changed after more than a year of war.

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Sounds Of The Mountains Part 2: Ukrainian Folk Musician Reflects On A Year Of Change 

Last year, Folkways Reporter Clara Haizlett met with Ukrainian tsymbalist Vsevolod Sadovyj over Zoom to understand the connection between the Appalachian hammer dulcimer and a Ukrainian folk instrument called the tsymbaly. At the time they met, it was just a few months after the war in Ukraine started. Haizlett caught up with him again this year to see how he and his family are doing.

This story originally aired in the July 23, 2023 episode of Inside Appalachia.

In a story from Inside Appalachia that aired last year, Folkways Reporter Clara Haizlett explored the connection between the Appalachian hammer dulcimer and a Ukrainian folk instrument called the tsymbaly. Over the course of her research, she met Ukrainian tsymbalist Vsevolod Sadovyj over Zoom. 

When Haizlett spoke with Sadovyj in May of last year, it was just a few months after the war in Ukraine started. At the time, Sadovyj was living in his hometown of Lviv. Now, Sadovyj is in Ireland. 

Sadovyj and his family are among the millions of Ukrainians who have left their homes since the start of the war. It’s caused Europe’s largest refugee crisis since World War II, displacing people within Ukraine, across Europe and around the world. 

Just days after the Russian invasion of Ukraine, Sadovyj’s wife and children crossed the border into Poland, eventually making their way to Ireland. Sadovyj helped them with the move, but then returned to Lviv, alone.

Ukrainian Tsymbalist Vsevolod Sadovyj (left) and his family.

Courtesy of Vsevolod Sadovyj

“Then I had to go back to Ukraine, because we had still some concerts and touring and recordings to do,” he said. 

Sadovyj was separated from his family for almost a year.

“So all the year, we were speaking in the messengers and video calls, and mostly I’ve been living alone,” he said. 

During that time, his work as a professional musician and music teacher was actually thriving. With the onset of the war, COVID-19 took a backseat. People began gathering again, organizing benefit concerts to support troops on the front lines — some of whom were musicians prior to joining the armed forces. 

“So we gathered a lot of funds to support them in the special needs, which are not covered by the government,” he said. 

Things like night vision scopes and drones.

“The concerts were even more soulful,” he said. “Because it’s not about only the entertainment, but the point was to support our friends and our relatives.” 

Sadovyj says it was a critical moment to be a part of his community — but at the same time, he was separated from his family.  

“I was at a crossroads of some sort…should I stay or should I go?” he said. “I missed all the year of my little son growing up, which is like something which will never turn back.” 

He decided to go, leaving behind students and bandmates and a thriving career. He joined his family in Galway, Ireland. It’s a colorful coastal city known for folk music. 

Ukrainian Tsymbalist Vsevolod Sadovyj now lives in Galway, Ireland.

Courtesy of Vsevolod Sadovyj

“Galway is a really good place to play on the streets and I saw a lot of musicians,” he said. “A lot of guys with guitars are singing songs. A lot of guys are playing traditional [music].” 

Sadovyj says he’s always felt a strong connection to Irish folk music. It was actually one of the reasons he and his wife decided on Ireland instead of another European country. 

“In Ukraine, we were really fond of Western European folklore, and especially northern folklore,” he said. “Irish was this special one from the favorite lists.”

Since moving there, Sadovyj has started playing the mandolin.

“My wife’s mandolin, which I never touched before, it’s so well fit to Irish music,” he said. 

He brought his own instruments from Ukraine, too. He’s been busking on the streets, playing tsymbaly and sharing Ukrainian folk music with passersby. 

“I’ve decided also to share something because I have this instrument, which would be interesting for people to see,” he said. 

There is an Irish version of the hammer dulcimer, but it’s not common in traditional Irish music. 

“It was something really unusual [for a street instrument], and a lot of people were just staying for a while just to see, just to hear,” he said. 

It’s not the first time Sadovyj has introduced Ukrainian folk music to people outside of Ukraine. He’s traveled extensively, sharing his music and culture on tour in the U.S. and other parts of Europe.

“It’s something natural for me but the difference probably is that I change the point of where the home is,” he said. 

Now home is Ireland. He’s met several people while playing tsymbaly on the streets in Galway, including a couple from Appalachia and a woman from Iran.

“I met the woman from Iran and she said it reminds her of her motherland,” he said. “Because they have a very similar instrument in Iran which is traditional for them, the santur…that means ‘the sound of sea waves.’” 

Well before the hammer dulcimer arrived in Appalachia or the tsymbaly found its way to Ukraine, it was called the santur. It’s thought to have originated in what is now Iran, where it then made its way around the world.  

Sadovyj is now part of this process: of people coming and going, leaving behind and starting anew — with instruments in tow and music stored within. 

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This story is part of the Inside Appalachia Folkways Reporting Project, a partnership with West Virginia Public Broadcasting’s Inside Appalachia and the Folklife Program of the West Virginia Humanities Council.

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Following Up With A Ukrainian Musician And Smoky Mountain Firefly Magic, Inside Appalachia

This week on Inside Appalachia, a Ukrainian musician reflects on what music means during wartime. And there’s a growing number of a certain kind of blood-sucking arachnid — and diseases that come with it. We also sit in on one of the natural wonders of the Great Smoky Mountains.

This week, a Ukrainian musician reflects on what music means during wartime.

And there’s a growing number of a certain kind of blood-sucking arachnid — and diseases that come with it. 

We also sit in on one of the natural wonders of the Great Smoky Mountains.

You’ll hear these stories and more this week, Inside Appalachia.

In This Episode:


An Update On Our Hammered Dulcimer Story

Last year, Folkways Reporter Clara Haizlett reported about the Appalachian hammered dulcimer, and its Ukrainian relative, the tsymbaly. Along the way, we met Ukrainian musician Vsevolod Sadovyj, who was in Ukraine as the country fought against the Russian invasion.

Haizlett recently caught up with the tsymbaly player over Zoom and brought us an update. 

Ticking Off The Trouble Of Ticks

Warm weather sends more people outside. But enjoying nature has it’s inherent risks, including ticks which can cause disease. Pictured is the black-legged tick, or deer tick, which can spread Lyme disease.

Credit: Smith Collection/Gado/Getty Images

With the exception of a cold snap on Christmas Eve, Appalachia had a mild winter. And now we’re paying the price, with a surge of ticks. Appalachian social media has seen a steady stream of complaints about the arachnids, Lyme disease and alpha-gal syndrome.

Producer Bill Lynch reached out to regional epidemiologist Daniel Barker-Gumm and Steven Eshenaur, the health officer for the Kanawha County Health Department, to learn more.

Firefly Magic In The Great Smoky Mountains

Not all bug stories are bad stories. Jacqui Sieber from WUOT takes us deep into the Smoky Mountains to watch lightning bugs, also called fireflies.

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