Foster Care Investigation Findings, Holiday Safety, and Energy Prices In This West Virginia Week

On this West Virginia Week, we’ll look back at an explosion at a fracking site. We’ll talk about a couple different things happening in the courts this past week, including a mistrial. And we’ll hear some good news about the decline in overdoses in the state.

We’ll also hear from a fire safety expert about how to stay safe during the holidays. And we’ll find out what state lawmakers learned from an investigation in the foster care crisis in the state.

Briana Heaney is our host this week. Our theme music is by Matt Jackfert.

West Virginia Week is a web-only podcast that explores the week’s biggest news in the Mountain State. It’s produced with help from Bill Lynch, Briana Heaney, Caelan Bailey, Chris Schulz, Curtis Tate, Emily Rice, Eric Douglas, Jack Walker, Liz McCormick, Maria Young and Randy Yohe.

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Possible Solutions Offered For Foster Care System Problems

For many years West Virginia has led the nation in foster care rates, with more than 6,000 children currently in state custody. This year, the state legislature formed a work group to identify and address complaints of neglect and ineptitude in the state’s child welfare system. As Emily Rice reports, the work group reported their findings and recommendations to lawmakers this month.

West Virginia has led the nation in foster care entry rates since 2010  with more than 6,000 children currently in state care. 

A legislative workgroup was formed in March to identify and address complaints of neglect and ineptitude in the state’s child welfare system. During November’s interim session, the workgroup reported their findings and recommended solutions to the Joint Standing Committee on Health.

Foster parents turned advocates, lawmakers and state officials presented lawmakers with ongoing problems and possible solutions in the state’s troubled foster care system.

Foster Care System Workgroup Update

Del. Adam Burkhammer, R-Lewis, and Sen. Vince Deeds, R-Greenbrier, gave a presentation on the Foster Care System Workgroup’s findings.

“We wanted to investigate the entire system for quality, efficiency and effectiveness,” Burkhammer said.

They said the workgroup’s report was a cumulative effort from several Senators and Delegates, including Sen. Patricia Rucker, R-Jefferson; Del. Jonathan Pinson, R-Mason; Laura Kimble, R-Harrison; Del. Margitta Mazzocchi, R-Logan; Del. Michael Hite, R-Berkeley and Del. Scot Heckert, R-Wood.

The increase in foster care has been largely fed by the state’s Substance Use Disorder (SUD) epidemic.

“When we talk about the leading factors of that (entry rate) 80 to 90 percent would probably go to substance abuse, as well as in poverty, family instability and parental education can kind of be bundled into one there,” Burkhammer said.

In 2000, six out of every 1,000 West Virginia children entered foster care. In 2021, more than double that number, 13 of every 1,000 West Virginia children, entered foster care. West Virginia’s entry rate increased 117 percent in those 21 years.

Burkhammer cited similar statistics from the state’s Child Welfare Dashboard, operated through the West Virginia Department of Health.

“That (6,000 children) leads the nation per capita at 19.8 per 1,000 children, versus the national average of 5.1 per 1,000,” he said.

For that reason, the workgroup focused on evaluating the state’s preventative services, where they found a lack of long-term planning, insufficient resources and a lack of adequate staff.

“There are 79 openings out of 390 CPS workers,” Burkhammer said. “That leads to high caseloads. High caseloads lead to poor quality in those caseloads.”

There is a need for attorneys appointed by a judge to represent the interests of people who cannot protect their rights. Those attorneys are called guardians ad litem (GAL) in family court.

“We’re always discussing that we don’t have enough of those to represent everyone through this legal process, and as well as all of our service providers are short-staffed and understaffed, and again, lead to high caseloads, which I believe ultimately leads to poor quality and attention to our children,” Burkhammer said.

Pinson, another member of the Foster Care System Workgroup, testified before the committee that in 2023, there were 157 GALs for the state of West Virginia. This year, there are 191, which Pinson said was an improvement, but not enough.

“That’s a pretty large increase, percentage-wise, 191, though for the entire state of West Virginia,” he said. “In 2024, from Jan. 1 until Oct. 31, there have been 4,708 new juvenile abuse and neglect cases.”

Pinson said that figure did not include active cases that are pending, so the workgroup estimates there could be as many as 10,000 active abuse and neglect cases for 191 GALs to handle.

“That means every guardian ad litem has at least 41 active juvenile abuse and neglect cases, not counting all the other legal work that they’re doing,” he said. “So as we think about guardian ad litems, we need to consider an increase in compensation.”

Pinson said though they may be overworked, West Virginia’s guardians ad litem are excellent attorneys.

“If we’re going to retain excellent attorneys for the children that we take custody of, we’re going to have to pay them,” Pinson said.

Burkhammer said the workgroup found that these problems could not always be attributed to a lack of funding, but a lack of urgency.

“Sometimes the money is there and the bills are not being paid in a timely fashion,” he said. “It was an ongoing complaint from everyone from service providers all the way down to families, of not getting timely payment and then ultimately not being able to provide those services and care to children.”

But, according to Burkhammer, the lack of urgency doesn’t end with spending.

“There’s a lack of urgency when we’re talking about court-ordered services that our biological families are ordered to participate in,” he said. “There’s delays in getting those implemented. Another area is data collection. Some of our reports are out of date. So when we’re talking about trying to fix an ongoing problem, we can’t be looking at one-year, two-year-old data. We need to be looking at real-time data.”

The workgroup looked into the foster care system’s transparency, and Burkhammer said that the workgroup found that confidentiality requirements often hindered the process.

“We want to protect the confidentiality of children, but at times, we’ve noticed that that extreme use of that confidentiality statute might create unintended consequences downstream when we talked about the complexity of the system,” Burkhammer said.

In fact, the workgroup found that the people who do have access to this confidential information are not performing their duties.

According to West Virginia state code, an MDT (multidisciplinary team) must be established for children in abuse and neglect cases to assess, plan and implement a system of services for those children and their families.

Burkhammer said the workgroup found MDT meetings are underutilized and lacking participation in West Virginia’s system.

“I think we all recognize sometimes we can put some really good law and really good code and really good policy on paper, but we have to make sure that’s being implemented in the field,” Burkhammer said.

The workgroup recommends the system require the MDT-appointed professionals to attend and participate in (MDT) meetings to set up a plan forward through the child’s case.

“I think one thing that would really help there is potentially adding a mediator to the MDT meetings, there’s really no leadership in the meeting, depending on who shows up and doesn’t show up,” Burkhammer said. “So a lot of times, the loudest voice in a room rules the day.”

The workgroup also found varying implementation dates for different programs, which Burkhammer thinks can be attributed to a lack of experienced workers and workers not receiving updated policies throughout their training.

The workgroup also found communication system failures among CPS workers, advocates and court officials.

“When we’re talking about this complex web of individuals all trying to work together, there’s no joint communication,” Burkhammer said. “So we do everything from text, email, phone call, trying to get information together, and simply there’s just a breakdown of communication when you start trying to piece everyone together.”

Burkhammer highlighted the passage of House Bill 4975 during the 2024 regular legislative session as a step in the right direction to resolve communication issues throughout the foster care system.

“We’ve got to continue to make sure that is rolled out and implemented properly, and then I believe in its initial success, we can then expand it into all of the stakeholders that I mentioned that have the ability to communicate together and utilize technology to our advantage,” Burkhammer said.

He told the committee that the workgroup also recommends increased intergovernmental cooperation.

“We have to build a coalition together and realize we all play a vital part in this, in solving this,” Burkhammer said. “And so building that cooperation between us, the sharing of information, the sharing of data, and working together, is essential to that.”

Pinson said he has learned about the foster care system through this investigation and in real life. He said that in his experience, there was a total lack of communication and resources for children and families

“My family, my wife and I, we’ve taken in foster children, and most generally, they show up with maybe a change of clothes or two, and so now you’re trying to think about, okay, how do I provide clothing for them,” Pinson said. “How do I provide a car seat for them, a bed for them, a crib for them, all of these things that they’re needed and they’re needed immediately, also while you’re trying to get them enrolled in school and make sure that you’re working out all the new transitional decisions.”

According to Pinson, a foster child is supposed to arrive at their custody placement with a $375 voucher from the state to help get the child settled in a new home. But, he testified the workgroup found complications with foster families reliably receiving a voucher and children losing purchased clothing and items while being moved from placement to placement.

“We can set forth requirements that children who are in state custody, that as these items are being purchased with state money, voucher money that they’re being inventoried and kept with the child,” Pinson said. “These items should belong to the children.”

Pinson also testified that often the vouchers are only redeemable at the chain retail store, Gabe’s, which doesn’t always stock all the necessities of caring for a child.

“If you’ve been to one (Gabe’s), you probably realize that there’s not car seats available,” Pinson said. “Very rarely we find beds and cribs and these things, so limited supply there.”

The workgroup also found an overall lack of resources like drug rehabilitation therapy counseling, Individualized Education Programs (IEPs), transportation and visitation services.

“There’s just certain areas that are doing certain things really well, and other areas not doing some things really well, which creates kind of that resource service gap for really all families, whether it’s biological kinship or or foster families in there,” Burkhammer said.

The Workgroup’s Proposed Solutions

While the workgroup found many problems throughout the Foster Care System, Delegates Burkhammer, Pinson and Deeds presented their proposed solutions.

To address foster children’s clothing and necessities, the workgroup presented draft legislation that would solidify the voucher program and implement an inventory process so children can keep what belongs to them, even if their placement is changed.

To address staff shortages, the workgroup recommends increasing pay. Burkhammer said lawmakers need to prioritize increasing reimbursement for Child Protective Services (CPS).

“High caseload leads to poor quality,” Burkhammer said. “I think we can prioritize that through increased pay.”

Burkhammer said compensating providers and families needs to be prioritized as well.

“Those that are on the front lines need to be paid for the services they’re providing,” Burkhammer said.

According to a state foster care policy from May 2022, the monthly boarding care payments for foster children range from $790 to $942, depending on the age of the child.

The workgroup recommends improving the use and leverage of federal funds.

“We found some gaps in where we were not utilizing federal funding, maybe to its maximum potential,” Burkhammer said. “And so that’s not needing state money. That just needs some policy rewrote and some approval from the feds.”

Burkhammer said the foster care system needs to utilize data better to prioritize needs and determine what is and is not working.

“A lot of times we’re just kind of throwing stuff out there,” Burkhammer said. “Let’s get a priority. And I think that’s going to come when we can see what is being effective and what isn’t.”

Burkhammer told the committee the system needs to improve access to preventative services and treatment resources to prevent children from being removed from their biological families in the first place.

“Pregnant mothers that are struggling with substance abuse need access to rehabilitation that lacks throughout the state,” Burkhammer said. “So we have between 15 and 20 percent on average, our babies in West Virginia are being born drug affected with drugs in their system.”

Burkhammer explained that by providing pregnant mothers with recovery resources before they give birth, there will be less of a chance the baby will be born dependent on substances and taken from the mother’s custody at birth.

During questioning, Del. Mike Pushkin, D-Kanawha, asked Burkhammer to clarify the number and extent of infants born affected by substances in West Virginia. Burkhammer answered that 15 percent of all infants born in the state have some exposure to a drug.

“Some would be considered NAS (neonatal abstinence syndrome) addicted, others may just be exposed to the drug,” Burkhammer said. “So when you talk about NAS, that would require they have a dependence on it, and it requires a methadone type treatment to bring them off of that while some it may not be, it may be in their system, but not to the point of dependency.”

Burkhammer added that the experts he has spoken with have told him they believe the number of infants born exposed to drugs is much higher.

Pushkin expressed his support for the bill, saying he hoped it would pass both chambers unanimously.

“Unless we really address preventative services, we’re going to keep beating our heads against the wall,” Pushkin said. “We need to fix it on this end as much as we can for the kids that are in the system now.

Pushkin said that one of the root causes of the crisis needs to be addressed as well. 

“We’re going to keep getting more and more kids in the system if we don’t address the 15 percent of children born somehow affected by the drug epidemic,” Pushkin said. 

On the topic of mothers struggling with SUD, Burkhammer said lawmakers need to consider adding a “long acting reversible contraceptive” program to the rehabilitation process. He did not elaborate and no lawmakers asked about that proposal.

Next, Burkhammer said the state needs to make transitional living programs available to the 30.86 percent of the state’s foster children who are 13 to 17 years old. He said many of those children lack a sense of permanency from their time in state custody, turn 18 and age out of the system with no place to go.

“There’s some really good programs out there with transitional living that we need to expand to make sure we’re grasping them kids because if we don’t expand transitional living, we will expand our jails,” Burkhammer said. “It’s a given that there’s a higher potential for those kids aging out of the system to end up incarcerated if we don’t give them those resources as they’re leaving our system.”

West Virginia leads the nation in rates of kinship placement, an arrangement where a child is removed from a parent or guardian and placed with another relative or someone familiar to them.

“We place them with somebody that knows them and tries to create some sense of stability throughout that traumatic event, but those kinship family resources don’t flow through the child placing agencies the same for a foster family,” Burkhammer said.

He recommended outsourcing resources for foster families, possibly duplicating the models used by child-placing agencies serving kinship families.

Burkhammer said West Virginia needs to improve its Adoption Family Resources.

“When you adopt a child, you go to court, everyone gets their picture taken (and) a lot of your services through that you were getting through that child placing agency end,” Burkhammer said. “It’s now that family’s responsibility, and so we need to continue to provide services through adoption and beyond to do that.”

Burkhammer told the committee he knows a lot of people want to help fix West Virginia’s foster care system, but many do not know where to start. He thinks the state can start by building volunteer coalitions in their local communities, dedicated to providing resources to families.

“Being a foster parent, a kinship parent, is difficult, and we’ve got to build resources around these families in their communities, with community folks,” Burkhammer said. “This isn’t asking the government to provide anything. It’s simply saying building these volunteer coalitions in our communities.”

During questioning, Del. George Miller, R-Morgan, asked how the workgroup plans to get communities involved and volunteering. Burkhammer answered that he believes churches and faith communities are the resource to look to, mentioning Chestnut Mountain Village by name.

“There are folks out there that that want to want to build beds, folks that want to provide meals, folks that want to provide clothing, and start clothing closets and offering all of those volunteer services,” Burkhammer said. “I believe they are out there. I believe West Virginians are charitable people. They just need some direction and in some leadership in it.”

Transparency And Accountability Draft Legislation

Sen. Vince Deeds, R-Greenbrier, opened his testimony by telling the committee that every one the workgroup talked to wants the best for the state’s children. 

“I can report to you beyond a shadow of a doubt that everyone that we have spoken to, and this includes all, whether it’s the law enforcement, community, education, health care, Department of Human Services, everyone wants the best for our children,” Deeds said. 

The draft legislation Deeds presented addresses child welfare transparency by setting up abuse and neglect reporting procedures that allow for reports to be made by email, fax, or an in-person printed form. He said this could supplement the 24/7 Centralized Intake Hotline currently used by the Department of Human Services.

Furthermore, the legislation would require that the person reporting suspected abuse or neglect receive an identifier number to track their report through the system. These other forms of reporting would be required to be treated the same as those that arrive through Centralized Intake.

Deeds said there would be no fiscal note for the new Centralized Intake supplemental program.

“So also, as you know, of course, there’s no cost on this as far as that goes, because, of course, it’d be part of their normal workload, and they can also the critical incident review team, can also, if they have the need, they can ask for outside experts for guidance,” Deeds said.

Deeds then discussed the screening out of reports by mandatory reporters, certain professionals that are legally required to report suspected abuse and neglect. The new draft legislation does not allow for any mandated reporter’s report to be screened out.

“I know, in my area, we have a lot of educators that file a lot of reports and they should, because they spend, they’re the one loving, caring adult that this child may see,” Deeds said. “They have an opportunity to see how this child is doing, and they would be a credible source of information, so need to be investigated by filing these mandatory reports.”

The workgroup also found that audio files from calls to Centralized Intake are not stored or cataloged They recommended keeping them on file for a year.

“That way, you can go back and review,” Deeds said. “If a person said, ‘Well, I called in and reported this.’ Well, what’s the identifier number? ‘I don’t have the identifier number.’ Well, you can go back and check the audio files and see if there actually was a file reported. And so it’d be really helpful to track that as well.”

Deeds said the same transparency bill would allow the foster care ombudsman broader authority to review certain information in abuse and neglect cases.

The Ombudsman reports information to the public and the legislature.

The transparency draft legislation would also require timely submission of a fatality or near fatality case to be reported to a new data dashboard. 

Currently in West Virginia, the Critical Incident Review Team reviews fatalities or near fatalities of children known to the child welfare system in the last 12 months. The team meets quarterly to examine each case practice, policy and training needed to make program improvements. 

The review is meant to identify areas that, if improved upon, may have prevented the death or severe injury of a child. They release a critical incident report annually. 

In 2023, the team reported 16 fatalities of children known to the child welfare system, five of which are attributed to abuse and/or neglect.

“If there’s an incident that happens in our areas, you know, we have a lot of public outcry for it, and there’s a lot of misinformation that comes from that because of the delay in time,” Deeds said.

The draft legislation aims to resolve incidents where miscommunications may have cost a child’s life.

Earlier this year 14-year-old Kyneddi Miller was found dead, her grandparents and mother were later charged with felony neglect and abuse. There were conflicting reports about the actions of state agencies involved in the case and calls for accountability.

Police officers claimed they saw the now deceased Miller nearly a year before her death. They said they were concerned about the girl’s well being, so they went to Boone County’s Child Protective Services (CPS) office to file a referral. However, CPS, which is a division of the Department of Human Services, said they have no record of that.

GPS data, police reports, and audio obtained from the police officer who visited Kyneddi in 2023, all corroborate the police officer’s claim that they went to CPS to make a referral after completing a welfare check on the child.

During a June press conference on the incident, Brian Abraham, Gov. Jim Justice’s chief of staff, said he interviewed the police officers and came to the conclusion that they did visit CPS, but that the officers may have not followed the proper protocol; the officer failed to call the 1-800 number the department had provided him to report the abuse and neglect.

Miller’s mother and grandparents were indicted on charges of murder of a child by parent, guardian or custodian by failure or refusal to supply necessities, and child neglect resulting in death on Sept. 17, 2024.

Deeds said the child’s initials, sex, age, ethnicity, county of residence and the date of the incident would be listed on the new dashboard under the purview of the Office of the Inspector General.

“We don’t want to take away from the criminal investigation or the civil investigation, but we just want to be able to list, yeah, there this happened in this area, and there will be a follow-up with the critical incident review team,” Deeds said.

Deeds said the workgroup found shortcomings in the Critical Incident Review Team, so they included an expansion of the team in their draft legislation.

“It would establish a team with requirements to review fatalities and near fatalities in the child welfare system and make recommendations for prevention and intervention,” Deeds said.

In the draft legislation, the new configuration of the critical incident review team would include a mixture of personnel from the Department of Human Services, the judicial system, law enforcement, a Senator appointed by the President of the Senate and a Delegate appointed by the Speaker of the House.

“They are there as monitors to see the information come in, and it is completely confidential,” Deeds said. “You know, there’s no FOIA requests, and it’s written very clearly in the bill that everything is, to be examined and not open to FOIA requests as well.”

Deeds said the hope is that the expanded critical incident review team will be able to identify patterns of abuse and neglect, but they would have no voting power.

Medical Information Draft Legislation

Burkhammer presented the workgroup’s second draft bill, which aims to ease foster and kinship parent’s access to the medical records of the children in their custody. This bill would expand on the 2024 regular session’s House Bill 4320, which passed both chambers, but stalled out on March 8 before completing legislation.

“We need to know if kids are taking medication, what that medication is, how often, what doctor they’ve been seeing,” Burkhammer said. “So oftentimes kids come into your care, you’re essentially starting back over.”

The legislation would also allow managed care providers and child placement agencies access to the child’s medical records.

“We want to allow our MCOs, our managed care provider, and our CPAs, our child placing agencies, to have access to that information, still in a confidential manner, but allows for proper care as children move throughout the system there,” Burkhammer said.

During questioning, Del. George Miller, R-Morgan, asked if there was a need to change the states interpretation of a federal privacy law, the health insurance portability and accountability act of 1996 or HIPAA,  laws would need to be changed to accommodate the draft legislation.

“West Virginia is kind of using the extreme side of the HIPAA law and not allowing parents in as well, not allowing their MCO and their CPAs to see that so we can stay within the bounds of federal HIPAA and still allow some flexibility in that,” Burkhammer answered.

Lawmakers will be able to consider those draft bills during the regular session in the spring.

Elkins Foster Care Facility To Close, While More Youth Enter State Care

The number of West Virginia children in state care spiked to more than 6,000 this month. As the state struggles with a shortage of licensed foster homes, one residential facility will close by the end of the year.

The number of West Virginia children in state care spiked to more than 6,000 this month. As the state struggles with a shortage of licensed foster homes, one residential facility will close by the end of the year.

The West Virginia Children’s Home in Elkins houses up to 25 foster children ages 12 to 18, who are deemed unfit for foster or group homes due to behavioral issues, according to the West Virginia Department of Health and Human Resources (DHHR) website.

But the facility will close by the end of the year, DHHR Deputy Secretary of Children and Adult Services Cammie Chapman confirmed during Gov. Jim Justice’s Nov. 19 virtual press briefing.

In 2023, the DHHR proposed converting the facility into a youth crisis center offering behavioral and mental health services.

DHHR Cabinet Secretary Bill Crouch said at the time that a growing number of children were being admitted to hospitals and emergency rooms “for days and weeks” due to behavioral and mental health concerns.

“This needs to stop,” he said. “We expect this facility to alleviate that need to provide the necessary and appropriate care and treatment of West Virginia’s youth.”

But Chapman said that plans for converting the facility never moved forward, and that the DHHR has instead shifted its focus toward supporting residential facilities already in place.

“We have been exploring over the last few years what a crisis center may look like [and] how it would be operationalized, but the facility has never been utilized as a crisis center,” she said. “We believe that working with our current residential providers is the most effective way and appropriate way to serve the children of the community.”

Cammie Chapman, deputy secretary of children and adult services for the West Virginia Department of Health and Human Services, delivers remarks during the governor’s Nov. 19 press briefing.

Photo Credit: WV Governor’s Office

In 2023, DHHR officials raised safety concerns about the Elkins facility to state lawmakers.

During a November 2023 interim committee meeting of the West Virginia Legislature, Department of Human Services Secretary Cynthia Persily said the century-old building might not comply with the Americans with Disabilities Act.

Persily also said that the facility had “a number of exposed pipes” and “life safety issues.”

Lawmakers discussed the possibility of closing the facility outright, but Persily said the West Virginia Code suggests that the state is obligated to operate a facility like the children’s home.

During Tuesday’s press briefing, Chapman did not say whether a different facility in the state would fulfill this requirement for the state. But Justice said that safety concerns surrounding the aging building’s infrastructure played a role in the decision to close it.

“Let me just say this: The building is 100-plus years old, and we tried to do what we could and everything to keep it in order,” he said.

Justice added that the facility would cost millions of dollars to repair. “The building is falling all to pieces,” he said.

Justice also said the facility currently only houses a “really small” amount of children, which made the decision to close the facility “just the right and smart thing to do.”

According to Justice, youth currently living at the West Virginia Children’s Home will be moved to the city of Parsons in Tucker County, located roughly 20 miles away.

Funding Abandoned Mine Land Reclamation And Fire Safety Tips For The Holidays This West Virginia Morning

On this West Virginia Morning, some things to keep in mind as we spend more time in the kitchen and around the fireplace. And the future of federal funds help to clean up abandoned mine lands under a new administration.

On this West Virginia Morning, it’s a wonderful time for family and friends to come together, but its also a time to be aware of fire safety around the home. Mark Lambert, director of the West Virginia University Fire Service Extension, spoke with Chris Schulz about some things to keep in mind as we spend more time in the kitchen and around the fireplace.

Also federal funds help to clean up abandoned mine lands, the West Virginia Public Employees Insurance Agency starts holding public hearings about proposed rate increases and the number of children in state custody rises.

West Virginia Morning is a production of West Virginia Public Broadcasting, which is solely responsible for its content.

Support for our news bureaus comes from Shepherd University and Marshall University School of Journalism and Mass Communications.

Maria Young produced this episode.

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Lawmakers Reevaluate Foster Care And Residents Raise Factory Concerns This West Virginia Morning

On this West Virginia Morning, plans for a controversial water bottling plant in Jefferson County will require modification and some say concerns about the project remain. Also, a legislative work group on the state’s child welfare system reported their findings and recommendations to lawmakers this month.

On this West Virginia Morning, plans for a controversial water bottling plant in Jefferson County will require modification after a vote from the local planning commission. But even with modifications, some say concerns about Mountain Pure Water Bottling Facility remain. Reporter Jack Walker spoke with Jefferson County Foundation President Christine Wimer about worries being raised by the community of Middleway.

And for many years West Virginia has led the nation in foster care rates, with more than 6,000 children currently in state custody. This year, the state legislature formed a work group to identify and address complaints of neglect and ineptitude in the state’s child welfare system. As Emily Rice reports, the work group reported their findings and recommendations to lawmakers this month.

West Virginia Morning is a production of West Virginia Public Broadcasting, which is solely responsible for its content.

Support for our news bureaus comes from Shepherd University and Marshall University School of Journalism and Mass Communications.

Maria Young produced this episode.

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Morrisey, Williams Face Off In First And Only Governor’s Debate

Republican Attorney General Patrick Morrisey and Democratic Huntington Mayor Steve Williams fielded questions from West Virginia Metro News host Hoppy Kercheval during the hour-long roundtable.

West Virginia’s Oct. 29 gubernatorial debate was recorded online. Watch it here through C-SPAN.

West Virginia’s candidates for governor took the debate stage at Fairmont State University Tuesday night. 

Republican Attorney General Patrick Morrisey and Democratic Huntington Mayor Steve Williams fielded questions from West Virginia MetroNews host Hoppy Kercheval during the hour-long roundtable.

In closing arguments, Williams noted this was the first and only time the two would debate. As governor, Williams said he would lead with a community-centric approach, using his 12 years as mayor of Huntington as a model.

“My mission is to see that we transform our communities, that we transform our state,” Williams said. “One thing that I think that we can agree on is that West Virginia can be much better than what it is right now.”

Williams said that means making economically advantageous decisions from “a global market” perspective, and not just focusing on local politics.

“Where I part company with my friend here is that I’m not just talking about the backyard brawls,” he said in reference to Morrisey.

Morrisey highlighted his support for former President Donald Trump, a recurring theme in his comments throughout the debate. He also advocated for reducing government regulation, plus auditing and cutting down spending from state agencies.

“I look out and I see the potential of robust competition, making sure that our taxes are going to compete much better with all the states that we touch,” Morrisey said. “We could be thought of from a regulatory perspective the way Delaware is thought of from an incorporation perspective. It’s going to be very powerful.”

Abortion

Kercheval opened the debate by discussing constitutional amendments. He pointed specifically to a May petition from Williams to add an abortion measure on the ballot.

In 2018, West Virginia voters passed a constitutional amendment codifying that the State Constitution does not protect the “right to abortion” or “the funding of an abortion.”. After the overturn of Roe v. Wade in 2022, state lawmakers passed a law to ban abortion with few exceptions.

“I just don’t see that the state has any interest in coming in and interfering in the reproductive choices that women and their partner are going to make,” Williams said.

The U.S. Fourth Circuit of Appeals heard arguments about expanding the state’s ban to also include medicated abortion on Tuesday.

Morrisey defended the current ban, while also expressing support for in vitro fertilization, or IVF. The treatment helps individuals experiencing infertility get pregnant by conducting the egg fertilization process in a laboratory.

Morrisey described IVF protection as “a common sense law that’s being defended right now.”

“Let’s make sure we work through the court system, we get a result,” he said. 

Education

The candidates also differed on their ideas surrounding school choice and educational funding.

In 2021, West Virginia established the Hope Scholarship. The program allows parents of K-12 youth to use funding the state allocates for their child on private school tuition, homeschooling costs or other qualifying educational expenses.

Morrisey said the Hope Scholarship could help improve low public school rankings. Eligibility for the scholarship is set to expand in the coming years.

“I want it to be the broadest in the country,” Morrisey said. “So we can start to show the metrics are improving, and then the public schools are going to be in a robust competition to follow.”

While Williams said he supports HOPE scholarships “used for a very specific purpose,” he expressed concern about taking money from struggling public schools.

“All of this rings to me as code for privatization,” Williams said.

Kercheval asked the candidates about the potential for school district consolidation. Neither expressed direct support for the plan.

“Give the local governments, give the county boards the ability to be able to make some decisions, but also create regional compacts where there can be a consolidation of administrative duties,” Williams said. “I think that’s just a matter of getting people around the table and talking about this.”

Morrisey did not address consolidation directly, but reiterated his broader plans for a government audit and restructuring proposal in response. He also said teachers in West Virginia “deserve a pay raise.”

“One of the things that West Virginia needs to do, it needs to be thinking about how it’s repurposing government into the future,” Morrisey continued. “There is a need for a thorough and efficient education, and if you can get rid of some of the bureaucratic waste, then I think we can do that more effectively.”

PEIA

During a special session of the West Virginia Legislature that ended in October, lawmakers passed $87 million in stop-gap funding for the state employee health insurance program after an unanticipated reserve shortfall.

Kercheval asked if the candidates supported a state employee pay raise to accommodate PEIA cuts, an approach Gov. Jim Justice has supported. Neither directly supported the raise.

“I’m not looking to create a pay raise,” Williams said. “I’m looking for a permanent fix.”

After the debate, Williams said his experience leading local government in Huntington would help him with financial decision-making as governor.

“We will involve teachers, we will involve public employees, and we will gather around and find a way that we make sure that this is funded properly for the last time,” Williams said. “I did this in Huntington, certainly on a smaller scale, but we were about to lose our health care plan … And now we’re operating with a deficit free budget.

In 2017, Huntington cut its budget deficit in half.

Morrisey again said reviewing state expenditures could be a catch-all solution.

“So I think we have to do what I mentioned before, do a close review and audit,” he said.

Jai Chabria, senior strategist for the Morrisey campaign, clarified to WVPB after the debate that Morrisey was cautious to commit to a fixed solution to PEIA too soon.

“While this might be a building problem, we’ve just now learned about how this has unfolded,” Chabria said. “I think there’s a very deliberate way in which we have to make sure we fix it, so it’s a long-standing fix and not something in the short term.”

Vaccination

During this year’s regular legislative session, West Virginia lawmakers passed a bill expanding vaccine exemptions for students. Gov. Justice later vetoed the bill. Kercheval asked both candidates where they stood on the issue.

Williams described the bill as an “overreach.”

“They’re getting into everybody’s business, and it’s none of their business,” Williams said.

Morrisey said he supported religious exemptions.

“West Virginia right now is an outlier with respect to that it’s not recognizing, at minimum, a religious exception,” Morrisey said. “It shows respect for the First Amendment, and I would make sure that that provision changes when I’m governor.”

Addiction Crisis

Williams said his experience as mayor during the opioid crisis in Huntington would help him better respond to the crisis on the state level. He said his opponent has a worse track record surrounding addiction.

“You were representing some of those same companies that we ended up suing,” Williams said to Morrisey. “Frankly, as I started looking more at this, I got angry.”

“He knows that we weren’t involved in any of those issues,” Morrisey rebutted.

Morrisey said he helped address the opioid crisis through successful litigation to distribute abatement money across the state, with Huntington opting out of the larger case. Huntington’s independent litigation is currently pending appeal.

“A couple years ago we put together an abatement structure for all 55 counties that earned the support of every county of virtually every municipality,” Morrisey said. “It passed unanimously through the legislature … Did the Attorney General not look out for Cabell County and Huntington? We did. We didn’t play politics there.”

Medically Assisted Suicide

This year, West Virginia voters will see a amendment on their ballot that would codify the illegalization of medically assisted suicide in the State Constitution. 

The passage of Amendment 1 comes down to voters, although the practice of medically assisted suicide is already illegal in West Virginia.. The candidates were divided in their opinions on the measure.

“I’m for that amendment, and I think that we should protect our most vulnerable from physician assisted suicide,” Morrisey said.

“As I have said a few times, freedom is on the ballot here,” Williams said. “When someone is facing health decisions with their physician, it’s their business.”

Foster Care

Kercheval also asked candidates whether they would raise compensation for foster care families to address a growing foster care crisis in the state.

“We definitely need to raise the reimbursement for child, for foster care,” Williams said. Williams added that immediate tax cuts could reduce funding available for this goal.

Morrisey said a solution to shortages in West Virginia foster care providers lies in financial decision-making and recruitment efforts.

“I think that this is an area that’s really going to benefit from a lot of the auditing, the performance reviews, and I think [Williams] would agree with this, to be able to find the right people,” Morrisey said.

Past Experience

Toward the end of the debate, Kercheval asked the candidates about  differences in their political experience.

Williams said his experience in Huntington qualified him for statewide executive office.

“The difference between the city and the state is nothing but zeros,” Williams said. 

Williams also questioned the necessity of Morrisey’s audit proposals, given that the state already has an auditor in place.

“As the state attorney general, I’ve had to put broad coalitions together to get really big things done,” Morrisey said. He argued that reducing government spending would return money to taxpayers.

In the past, Williams has described Morrisey’s aims to reduce government regulation and spending as “Project 2025 for West Virginia,” referring to a conservative plan for a presidential transition that Trump has distanced himself from.

Speaking for Morrisey’s campaign, Chabria rebutted the characterization.

“That’s pretty much uniform on the Democratic side right now, trying to scare voters into something that it’s absolutely not,” Chabria said. “He’s going to cut taxes. He’s going to try to eliminate the income tax. He’s going to try to make sure that government works better. But he’s actually going to deliver on an audit.”

After the debate, Williams stood by his previous assertion.

“I do believe that when they’re saying ‘rightsizing’ government, they’re looking at privatizing and Project 2025,” Williams told WVPB.

Williams said Trump has only distanced himself from the plan as a political strategy.

Morrisey and his campaign team are “just following the political playbook on the R side,” Williams said.

Off Stage

Williams said it was a “shame” the two candidates were unable to debate more often, and that their only discussion came days before Election Day.

Tuesday’s debate came after a scheduling controversy in September, when a previously proposed WOWK debate did not come to fruition. The Williams campaign had called for multiple debates entering this year’s election.

Chabria emphasized that Morrisey was committed to participating in a debate.

“It was very important to Patrick Morrisey to actually have a debate, to make sure that people got to hear from him directly and to debate his opponent,” Chabria said.

In the state’s race for United States Senate, Gov. Jim Justice, the Republican candidate, declined to debate his opponent, Democrat and former Wheeling Mayor Glenn Elliott.

Outside of the debate hall, supporters for Libertarian candidate Erika Kolenich protested third party candidates’ exclusion from the gubernatorial debate.
By the close of polls on Monday, the Secretary of State’s office recorded 176,709 votes already cast. Early voting runs through Nov. 2 at locations throughout the state, and Election Day is Nov. 5.

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