Us & Them: Can Former Prisoners Help Fill Our Workforce Gaps?

There’s a serious labor shortage in West Virginia. Some believe the 50,00 people released from jails and prisons each year could help. For this episode, Us & Them focuses on second-chance employment.

Updated: August 9, 2024 at 12:00 p.m.

There’s a serious labor shortage in the U.S. right now with millions of jobs going unfilled. Each year, West Virginia releases 50,000 people from state prisons and local jails and all those people need jobs. 

On this episode of Us & Them, host Trey Kay spotlights a recent event in Charleston, West Virginia called “Second Chances for a Stronger Workforce.” It brought together workforce and criminal justice leaders to make a case that ex-offenders can be part of the state’s economic growth strategy, if they’re given the support needed to overcome barriers like stigma, mental health and substance use disorders, and a lack of transportation and housing. Organizers sought to address employers’ concerns about hiring the formerly incarcerated, advocate for expanded reentry programs, and offer hope to those recently released that they can find stable jobs. 

This episode of Us & Them is presented with support from the West Virginia Humanities Council, the CRC Foundation and The Just Trust.

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Federal Magistrate Judge Michael Aloi, U.S. District Court of the Northern District of West Virginia.

Photo Credit: Michael Aloi

“Second Chances for a Stronger Workforce” featured people who work or have worked in West Virginia’s prison system, including those who’ve been incarcerated. The goal was to highlight how job training programs in prison can help the formerly incarcerated find meaningful work and how employers’ fears of recidivism can limit those opportunities. 

Hon. Michael Aloi, a federal magistrate judge in the U.S. District Court of the Northern District of West Virginia was the keynote speaker at the event, which took place in Charleston, West Virginia. 

Judge Aloi told the audience he believes in second chances. He presides over the Northern District’s Drug Court Program. 

Drug courts are set up to help nonviolent offenders whose criminal behavior is directly tied to their alcohol or drug use. Participants can get their charges dismissed if they successfully complete a treatment program.

“Tell me, why is it that we should be doing anything in  government, anything that, courts or anywhere else that makes it harder to get a job? Why is that good for us?” Aloi said. “I understand why people convicted of child molestation should not be working in daycare. I understand why people who embezzled money maybe shouldn’t be working in banks. Okay. But sometimes there’s just no connection.”

Aloi said 90 percent of those in the criminal justice system have experienced trauma. In West Virginia, about 60% of people sentenced to state prisons and local jails have substance use disorder. 

Aloi said the criminal justice system has improved the counseling and treatment programs offered to inmates. 

But he said recovering from trauma and addiction wasn’t enough to ensure an inmate’s successful reentry once they’re released.  

“Because you can recover, but unless you replace one life with another life, then you don’t have a complete recovery,” he told the audience. “That means in economic recovery it means that you need a GED. It means that you need a driver’s license. It means that you need a bank account. It means that you need a job.” 

Participants watched an excerpt of a documentary from Roadtrip Nation, a PBS series on careers. “Being Free” profiles three formerly incarcerated people and their search for work after prison.  After the screening, Us & Them host Trey Kay moderated a discussion on what it takes to make reentry and work training programs a success for the employer and the employee. 

Photo Credit: Julie Blackwood
Charlotte Webb (left) and Deb Harris.

Photo Credit: Julie Blackwood

Charlotte Webb and her husband are both in recovery from substance use disorder. They are the founders of Charleston Property Restoration, a home construction company that hires the formerly incarcerated. Many are also in recovery from substance use disorder.

Webb said other employers tell her the biggest concern they have in hiring former prisoners is that they’ll return to criminal behaviors. 

“‘What  will they do? If something happens, I’m going to be responsible. It’s a risk.’” I tell them the truth. Anybody you hire, there is a risk involved. You don’t know them. You don’t know what kind of job they’ll do,” said Webb. 

She said she’s had good experiences with those reentering the workforce after rehab or prison.

“They are so humble. They’re just, you know, so grateful for the opportunity and that they know that we’re trying to help them ameliorate the barriers,” said Webb.

Deb Harris is the lead transition agent for Jobs & Hope – WV, a state initiative to help inmates with substance use disorder gain work skills and find jobs once they’re released.  She says addiction recovery creates additional challenges.

“I mean, I think it’s hard enough to reenter from a facility, but when you pair that with having a substance use disorder, now you have to not only worry about housing, but you have to worry about your treatment and your mental health and getting connected to the recovery community and going to parole or probation and it just really adds to the list of troubles that you have when you already get out,” Harris said.

Amber Blankenship

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Amber Blankenship is a Peer Reentry Coordinator with REACH Initiative, a reentry program.  She was formerly incarcerated herself.  

“I was released from prison with a trash bag of clothes on my back that was filled with more than just clothes. It was like judgment, shame, all that stuff. It was very heavy,” she said. 

Blankenship was helped by Jobs & Hope, which was in its infancy when she was released.

“Barrier after barrier was met with a solution. You know, who would have known I’d be sitting up here five years ago? I would have never thought that,” she said. 

Betsy Jividen

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Members of the panel echoed Judge Aloi’s belief that West Virginia should be developing more policies to promote a second-chance workforce. 

“I think the state is starting to realize the only way out of this is through it,” said Harris. “So, we have to start putting some things in place that will be solutions, first of all, not create more consequences or setbacks for folks.” 

Harris’ suggestion may be a tough sell for West Virginia’s legislature.

The West Virginia Center on Budget and Policy, an independent policy research group, says that during the 2023 regular session, lawmakers introduced nearly 150 bills that create new criminal offenses or increased penalties for existing crimes. 

One that passed the Senate but failed in the House would have changed simple possession of some drugs from a misdemeanor to a felony offense. 

In its report, the Center on Budget and Policy noted that increased drug penalties have given West Virginia the highest incarceration rate in the nation.

The legislature also failed to expand transitional housing and did not take up bills that would have restored voting rights to people with felony convictions who are on probation or parole. 

Betsy Jividen is a former federal prosecutor and the ex-commissioner of West Virginia’s Division of Corrections and Rehabilitation. She served for four years before stepping down in 2022. 

She said she tells skeptical employers, citizens and lawmakers that helping people with past convictions find and keep a job is good for public safety. 

“If we’re bringing people home from prison and not helping them to become gainfully employed, there is probably one thing that is going to happen,” she said. “Do it for that reason, for public safety and for helping your community. It seems it should be a no-brainer that we all should want that for whatever reason, for whatever is motivating us in this journey.”

Amber Blankenship, Deb Harris, Betsy Jividen and Charlotte Webb with Us & Them host Trey Kay at the “Second Chances for a Stronger Workforce” event, which took place at the Capitol Theatre in Charleston, W.Va. in April 2024.

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Asked to describe a successful second chance workforce program, Jividen said, “Getting employers talking about what these guys have been talking about. These are good employees.”

Charlotte Webb said successful reentry starts with building relationships.

“And so really having a relationship with someone who will be like, if you have trouble, call me. Because typically when I ask them, ‘Do you feel like you’ve got some system of support?’ nine times out of ten, they’ll say, ‘I have no one,’” Webb said.

Deb Harris, who is in recovery from substance abuse disorder, spent over a year with her children in supportive housing before striking out on her own. She said her transition back into the workforce began when a counselor who was signing her up for welfare benefits noticed she had scored high on an assessment test and asked her why she hadn’t gone to college.

“I am where I am today because somebody asked me that. ‘How come you haven’t gone to school? You’re smart. What do you want to do with your life?’ ‘I don’t know.’ And so, you know, I had people help me figure it out,” she said. “But I think, yes, I think we need to allow people to dream and have a vision.”

Amber Blankenship agreed. She said a second chance workforce begins with “a relationship and a dream.”

Related Us & Them episodes:

Re-Entry

Locked Out of Voting

Expungement — Between Hope and Danger

Court of Second Chances

Who Gets Stuck Behind Bars in West Virginia?

The Stigma of Recovery

Editor’s note: This post was updated to clarify background information about a source and add detail about legislation.

As New Fiscal Year Begins, State Revenue Meets Estimates But Sees Minimal Growth

West Virginia took in more than $335 million last month, narrowly exceeding state estimates. The state also collected slightly more money last month than it did the July prior.

The state’s revenue collections for July narrowly surpassed monthly estimates, as well as the total collections by this time last year.

West Virginia took in more than $335 million last month, exceeding estimates from the West Virginia State Budget Office by less than 1 percent. The State Budget Office is a staff agency for the governor that oversees budget and revenue information.

The state also collected slightly more money last month than it did the July prior. In July 2024, West Virginia’s state revenue was less than 1 percent higher than it was in July 2023.

July marks the first month of a new fiscal year for the state. A 4 percent cut to personal income taxes will be implemented at the start of the new calendar year, and additional tax cuts will likely be considered by state lawmakers.

If the state revenue follows trends from the most recent fiscal year, these reductions likely mean the state will take in less money this year than last. After sweeping tax cuts in 2023, the state collected 12 percent less revenue last fiscal year than the fiscal year prior.

Gov. Jim Justice has touted the tax cuts as a way to empower consumers in West Virginia, and to attract new residents and businesses. He also voiced aims to cut income tax further, with an ultimate goal of “getting rid” of the state’s personal income tax altogether.

“It’s the people’s money,” Justice said in a virtual press briefing in late May. “It’s not our money.”

Likewise, Justice has made reducing government spending a focal point of his tenure. During this year’s legislative session, the governor advocated for a flat budget, meaning one that does not increase year by year even if inflation or operating costs rise.

Justice’s financial decision-making has not been met without opposition. Some residents and state lawmakers have expressed concern that less money for the government means less funding for state services, like Medicaid and public education.

To secure further tax cuts during the months that remain of his tenure as governor, Justice would have to convince state legislators to pass additional reductions during a special legislative session.

He has expressed an intention to call lawmakers back to the state capitol to discuss further cuts by September, but a date for any such session is yet to be finalized.

Justice Confirms Cabinet Secretary Resigned Over Super PAC Involvement

Mark Scott, a cabinet secretary for Gov. Jim Justice, is resigning this month after questions about the legality of his involvement with a conservative super political action committee arose.

A cabinet secretary for Gov. Jim Justice resigned after questions emerged over whether he solicited campaign funds for a conservative super political action committee (PAC) “on government time,” Justice said during a virtual press briefing on Thursday.

Mark Scott has served as cabinet secretary for the West Virginia Department of Administration since November 2021, but news of his departure was made public this week.

In the months before his resignation, Scott served as chairman of a conservative super political action committee that fundraised and endorsed candidates for office in West Virginia.

Scott was announced chairman of Conservative Policy Action, a conservative super PAC, in February. Super PACs are political organizations that can endorse political candidates and fundraise around specific issues.

Kim Webber, executive director for the State Ethics Commission, told MetroNews that it is illegal for public employees to “use public resources for political campaigns.”

This includes soliciting funds while on the clock.

“That’s why I said that I believe that he got out probably over his skis and maybe messed up,” Justice said.

According to Justice, Scott said he did not realize what he was doing was illegal, and chose to resign to avoid causing further issues for the governor’s administration.

His resignation takes effect July 31. Scott’s letter of resignation has not yet been made public, but Justice said it would be released “without a question.”

Scott will be succeeded by John McHugh, who formerly served as deputy secretary of administration and director of the state’s General Service Division, Justice announced in a Thursday press release.

New Program Aims To Provide ‘Individualized’ Support To Youth In Foster Care

A new program from the West Virginia Department of Human Services aims to provide individualized care to youth in the foster care system by further addressing their clinical and placement needs.

A new program from the West Virginia Department of Human Services (DoHS) aims to provide additional care to youth in the foster care system on a personalized basis.

Announced earlier this week, The Promise Project is a DoHS program coordinated with Aetna Better Health of West Virginia. Through the program, Aetna will conduct assessments of each child’s clinical and placement needs.

It will also create a placement intervention team comprised of health care providers and DoHS employees that meets weekly to directly address “the needs of children without placement and those requiring new placements,” according to a Monday press release.

Since 2020, Aetna has served as the sole managed care provider for youth in the state’s foster care system. This role has meant overseeing “physical and behavioral health care services” for children in foster care, as well as those receiving adoption assistance or participating in the Children with Serious Emotional Disorders Waiver program.

DoHS Secretary Cynthia Persily said in the press release that The Promise Project marks an effort to provide “holistic, individualized care for children in the foster care system.”

“By taking a personalized approach, the project not only addresses immediate placement needs but also supports the long-term well-being and stability of children,” Persily said. “This collaborative effort ensures that youth receive the support they need to thrive and eventually reunite with their families and communities.”

Likewise, Aetna Executive Director Kathy Szafran said providing individualized care like this ensures children in the foster care system “receive the best possible support and opportunities for a brighter future.”

“By working together, we can provide tailored care that addresses the unique needs of each child,” she said.

W.Va. Voters React To Biden Decision And Martinsburg Dancer To Join Touring Cast Of ‘Hamilton,’ This West Virginia Morning

On this West Virginia Morning, President Joe Biden stepped away from his bid for a second term on Sunday and has now endorsed his vice president and running mate Kamala Harris. Briana Heaney spoke with West Virginia voters about how this decision affects what they will decide to do in November.

On this West Virginia Morning, President Joe Biden stepped away from his bid for a second term on Sunday and has now endorsed his vice president and running mate Kamala Harris. Briana Heaney spoke with West Virginia voters about how this decision affects what they will decide to do in November.

Also, in this show, Martinsburg native Sabrina Harrison grew up dancing at a local studio. She took that passion for dance with her into college, and now into a full-time career in New York City. Next month, Harrison will join the touring cast for the musical Hamilton, and she’ll be dancing on stages across the United States.

Eastern Panhandle Reporter Jack Walker spoke with Harrison to discuss her upbringing in West Virginia and her career so far.

West Virginia Morning is a production of West Virginia Public Broadcasting which is solely responsible for its content.

Support for our news bureaus comes from Shepherd University.

Emily Rice produced this episode.

Listen to West Virginia Morning weekdays at 7:43 a.m. on WVPB Radio or subscribe to the podcast and never miss an episode. #WVMorning

Voters React To Biden’s Decision

Many voters planning on voting for Trump or another candidate say their plans for November have not changed. Some voters who were planning on supporting Biden say they will support whoever takes his place. 

President Joe Biden stepped away from his bid for a second term on Sunday and has now endorsed his Vice President and running mate Kamala Harris. 

Many voters planning on voting for Trump or another candidate say their plans for November have not changed. Some voters who were planning on supporting Biden say they will support whoever takes his place. 

But some voters are considering a new course of action. Like Evan Bondurant, who says he wants to see someone younger take the nomination. 

“It does kind of, I guess change what I was gonna do in November,” Bondurant said. 

He said he was concerned for Biden’s age and considered straying from the two major parties and voting for an independent candidate. 

“Now that he’s dropping out of a race, it makes me maybe a little bit more likely to maybe vote for whoever they replace him with,” Bondurant said. 

Tiffany Palmer on the other hand, said she was not planning on voting for a Democrat. 

“I think he needed to drop out of the race, and it makes it a little more fair for Democrats,” Palmer said. 

Palmer said she could be swayed. She thinks it will be Harris, because of her knowledge of the presidency, her endorsements, and access to campaign funds. 

I’m not a big Kamala fan either,” she said “but I’m looking forward to seeing who she might pick as her running mate.”

David Smith, a self-identified Republican, said he was happy to hear the news that Biden was stepping down. His wife Wanda Smith said she was not so happy. 

“They’ll put Kamala Harris in there. And she’s even worse. Or Miss Obama. Or Clinton. It scares me,” Wanda Smith said. “They’re pushing women. And to be honest with you, I don’t think it’s time for a woman.” 

Time is of the essence for Democrats with the Democratic National Convention a month away, and the general election is three months away. 

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