Front and Center with Morgantown's William Matheny

Since the show began almost two years ago, A Change of Tune has highlighted some of the best up-and-coming artists out of these West Virginia hills with podcast-y chats ranging from Bud Carroll to Goodwolf, Rozwell Kid to Coyotes in Boxes and beyond.

But those interviews have been a bit infrequent, and since West Virginia Day was this month (and with A Change of Tune’s second birthday on the horizon), we thought we’d do something special: 30 days, 30 brand new #WVmusic interviews that range from Morgantown alt-rockers and Parkersburg singer-songwriters to West Virginia music venues and regional artist management and beyond, all of which contribute to this state’s wild and wonderful music scene.

And today, we are chatting with Morgantown singer-songwriter-rocker William Matheny, who joined a band and began touring when he was but a wee lad. Flash-forward to today, and he has a great new release to his name, and he’s primed to make his NPR Music debut on Mountain Stage. We chatted with William about his experience playing music up in Mountaineer Country, the friends he’s made over the years in West Virginia, and what we can expect at his June 26 Mountain Stage…

William Matheny’s newest release is the Blood Moon Singer EP, which is a preview of his upcoming full-length Strange Constellations. You can hear his music on his website. Catch him on Mountain Stage on June 26 with his band friends Bud Carroll, Ian Thornton, Rod Elkins, and Adam Meisterhans. Hear more #WVmusic on A Change of Tune, airing Saturday nights at 10 on West Virginia Public Broadcasting. And for more #WVmusic chats, make sure to go to wvpublic.org/wvmusic and subscribe to our RSS / podcast feeds!

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William Matheny, performing at The Empty Glass in 2016.

Interview Highlights

On his family’s roots in music:

My great-grandfather was a regionally known gospel singer, and then his son (my grandfather) was a regionally known country singer named Mansfield Matheny. He had a band with some of his friends called The Rhythm Rascals, this would’ve been in the late ‘40s/early ‘50s. My grandfather was the lead singer of the group and played rhythm guitar.

My dad also plays music. He was in a really good bluegrass band in the late ‘70s/early ‘80s. They traveled around, did some stuff, and recorded an album, and then they all got married and had kids. Basically, I broke up the band. He still plays guitar in the church choir. He taught me how to play music, and we actually played in bands together when I was a kid. We played in cover bands when I was an adolescent and in early high school.

It was a long series of different bands, and I really have to give my father a ton of credit on this. I always stress this with people: my parents weren’t stage parents at all. This all was my idea. Basically I’d been playing guitar, and I told my parents I wanted to play in a band. And when you’re a small kid in a really small town, maybe you know people who play music, maybe you don’t.  My dad got on the phone and said, “Hey, my son plays music. He wants to start doing stuff. Would you be interested in joining a band?” I didn’t think anything of it at the time, but I’m incredibly grateful for it now just because I’m imagining being an adult and getting that call from one of your acquaintances like, “Hey, would you want to join a band with my 9-year-old son?” [Laughing] I would be obviously be incredibly skeptical of that.

On beginning his music career in Morgantown:

I grew up about an hour south of Morgantown. By that time I’d become acquainted with the scene up here and all the bands, [not to mention] making music and doing albums and touring and stuff, I really wanted to get involved with [the scene]. At that point, I started playing with this guy named Brian Porterfield who had this band in the ’90s called Cheap Truckers’ Speed. Brian doesn’t really play anymore, but I say this to anyone who listens: he’s probably the best songwriter I know personally. In terms of people I can call on the phone and say “hello,” he’s just really, really great. Like one of those unknown treasure people.

I wanted to join his band. I looked him up in the phonebook, we knew some mutual people so it wasn’t totally like a cold-call, and I tried to pitch myself. It took a few phone calls, but eventually I joined as his drummer. That was my first proper band that was doing original material. I did that for like two years, like the second half of high school.

That band stopped playing like three or four months after I graduated from high school and turned 18. That was sort of when I [began playing front-and-center]. I was writing songs the whole time and played them a little bit, but it wasn’t my main focus. By that point, I was itching to get back to playing guitar, and I wanted to have a band that was playing my own material. I didn’t go to college; instead, I just moved to a college town and joined like five bands. I didn’t say no to any gig for a really long time. I was playing with a bunch of different groups, and it was a wonderful learning experience. I’m super happy about doing it. It meant I could learn how to play a lot of different genres and have a really good time doing it. There’s no shortcut into doing that. I wouldn’t recommend the same thing if you want to be a brain surgeon, but for music? Do it.

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William Matheny performed at U92 FM’s inaugural Moose Fest at 123 Pleasant Street.

On playing in Morgantown:

123 Pleasant Street is obviously the biggest venue here in terms of ones that do things consistently. I’ve played at 123 for 16 or 17 years at this point. It’s been a really long time, and I’ve always really enjoyed it. It’s still my favorite club. Whatever place you latch onto when you’re young and impressionable, it will always be that gold standard for you. Every time I go out of town, I’m always comparing it to 123.

Gene’s [in Morgantown] is great. It’s this really nice neighborhood bar that’s a block away from my house. The owner Al [Bonner] is one of the best people in the world, just a great human being. It’s a very small place with a little PA, and it almost feels like you’re playing a house party more than anything. But it’s really great. He’s been very cool about getting in touring people. Sharon Van Etten played their once, and so did Lydia Loveless, John Paul Keith, and Webb Wilder. Gene’s is wonderful.

On recording his new record and forming a band of friends for it:

When we started recording, there wasn’t a concrete band line-up. Southeast Engine had stopped, and I knew I wanted to make a record. I wanted to get back to doing what I do. At the time, Rozwell Kid’s Adam Meisterhans was hanging out with Bud Carroll trying to make a record of his own (titled Best Vibrations, which I have to point that out because the title’s great), and I guess Adam sent me a text while he was down there saying it’d be fun for the three of us to work on a record. That seemed as good as an idea of any, so we went down, and we didn’t know what any of us would be playing on it. While we made it, Adam plays most of the bass, Bud plays most of the drums. I used to joke and tell people that if you’re going to make an album, you need to find the best two guitar players you know and have them play something else.

We also brought Tyler Childers & the Food Stamps‘ Rod Elkins and Ian Thornton on board so we could move Bud and Adam to guitar. Everyone is doing what they really excel at.

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William Matheny’s upcoming full-length is ‘Strange Constellations.’ In the meantime, check out his 3-song EP ‘Blood Moon Singer’ at this week’s Mountain Stage.

On the new album and the band sharing the name of Strange Constellations:

Initially, I decided it was going to be the name of the record, and I wanted some continuity sort-of between the album and then name of the band. It comes from this thing in Moby Dick where Ishmael is talking about being in the Southern Hemisphere under different stars. What I took that to mean was if you’re astrologically inclined at all, you’re not really sure about the star signs that are guiding you, which is one of the main themes of the record. We wanted to tie the name of the band into that.

On playing Mountain Stage on June 26 in Charleston:

This is my fourth time. I did it twice with Todd Burge and once with Southeast Engine. It’s the first time under the guise of doing my own material. We’re obviously really excited. We’re doing the rarest of things in our band where we’re practicing. We’ve decided what we’re going to play, sharpening our knives and getting ready for the street fight.

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A FestivALL favorite, William Matheny has been performing in Charleston for years.

On advice to anyone getting into music:

The big thing is to don’t quit; that will get you further than anything you can do. After that, you just have to get out of town and play as many places as you can. That can be really discouraging at first, especially when you don’t know what that’s supposed to be like. If you’re playing popular shows in your hometown, you kind of immediately think everything should be like this. You’re going to do this, and it won’t be fun as playing in your hometown is initially, but if you keep coming back, it will. While it may not seem like you’re having an impression, you really are. So the best thing you can do is stay with it.

I’d hardly call myself qualified to give advice, but keep working and don’t get discouraged. That’s the important thing. Keep working, everything will improve. Don’t let it get you down.

Music featured in this #WVmusic chat:

William Matheny- “29 Candles”

William Matheny- “My Grandfather Knew Stoney Cooper”

William Matheny- “Living Half to Death”

Morgantown's High-Flying Alt Band False Pterodactyl

It’s hard “making it” in the music biz, especially if you’re a great band out of Morgantown, West Virginia.

After seven self-releases and minor media coverage, False Pterodactyl’s John “Jake” Jacob and Josh Ratliff have come to the realization that they may never break into mainstream music, but at least they’re making the eclectic music that they want to make.

We sat down with the alt rock duo to talk about their new release Lo, what it means to be a “DIY band” and the West Virginia music that should be on your radar.

False Pterodactyl released Lo this past December through their Bandcamp. You can follow the band on Twitter and Facebook. To hear more of their music, tune in to ‘A Change of Tune,’ airing Saturdays at 10pm EST on West Virginia Public Broadcasting. And if like these #WVmusic features, support them by becoming a member of West Virginia Public Broadcasting!

Interview Highlights

On the beginning of False Pterodactyl:

Jake: I was living in Braxton County and was having these weekend jams in my dad’s garage. And my little sister was like, “My friend Josh plays drums.” So I told her, “Well, have him to come up and play.” And we jammed, and it was really fun, and it sounded pretty cool. And he lived up here at the time, so I was like, “Well, I’m going to move to Morgantown and start a band.” Because we’ve known each other since we were little kids. We were on the same little league team back in the 90s [laughs].

Josh: Yeah, I was a horrible baseball player. Music was a little… I’m not saying I’m not terrible [at playing music], but it’s not as bad as baseball.

On calling themselves a Morgantown band:

Josh: Well, I came to school here [in Morgantown], so I graduated in 2011 from WVU. I’ve just been kicking it around up here ever since.  We’re both originally from the Flatwoods area: we grew up there, it’s where the band started jamming… So we’re kind of back and forth [between Morgantown and Flatwoods]. We’re very proud of our West Virginia heritage.

Jake: Yeah, we’re a Morgantown band. We can’t say we’re from Flatwoods because no one knows where Flatwoods is.

On the Braxton County music scene:

Josh: There’s bluegrass that goes down. As far as rock or anything like that, there’s not much of that going on.

Jake: Some friends of mine, they have a [Braxton County] band called Electric Green Machine. It’s like a sludge metal band. They’re actually guys I used to jam with, too. Their drummer was the drummer of my first band in high school.

On False Pterodactyl’s name:

Josh: Obviously we like Jurassic Park [laughs].

Jake: It was weird. After we started the band, we started writing songs. It took a month or two to pick out a name, and it got to the point that it just became frustrating. So we were having a really random conversation in my dad’s driveway one evening with friends, and got stuck on this idea of a guy wearing a pterodactyl costume.

Josh: I think we were originally going to be John Brown Pterodactyl..

Jake: But the guy who we were going to name it after was wild and was worried he might…

Josh: Yeah, it wasn’t the historical John Brown [laughs].

Jake: But we settled on False Pterodactyl because it’s really easy to Google, which you have to have that nowadays if you want someone to find you. It was just weird, and what’s nice about it is that it doesn’t really imply a certain kind of music, so we can keep changing and doing different kinds of music and not worry too much if it fits the image of the band or whatever. I don’t really think we have an image, and if we did, it keeps changing.

Josh: If anything, we work a little bit at not intentionally projecting a certain image of the band. It seems contrived, and we worry about that. We don’t want to seem contrived.

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False Pterodactyl’s rock’n duo Josh Ratliff and John “Jake” Jacob.

On their evolving sound:

Josh: When we first started, we had that two-piece bluesy rock thing going, so I got real into these two-piece bands like Flat Duo Jets and The White Stripes. But I’ve never really been hardcore into any particular kind of music. [For example,] I like Nicki Minaj! She just does some cool things vocally; it’s interesting, and I cannot get bored listening to it

Jake: For a lot of our songs, I think the lyrics are definitely hip hop-influenced, which I think is cool as far as trying to stay away from being contrived, staying away from being just a punk band or a two-piece blues rock band.

Josh: Which really works against you because… I wouldn’t say people want to pigeonhole you, but they definitely want a sound bite that can describe you.

Jake: I feel if someone takes the time to listen to us, they can do it on a song-by-song basis. Because we don’t just have one song where everyone’s like, “Aw, we love that one song.” Everyone has a different song that they like. And I like that because it just means that…

Josh: We don’t have to play that one song over and over [laughs].

On their newest release Lo:

Jake: I tried to make this one a little more psychedelic, just because that’s what I’ve been into lately. I got really into Six Organs of Admittance and that really lo-fi sound… I just wanted to make it different, not super accessible.

Josh: I was in a car accident on November 1 [in 2015] and broke my legs, so that kind of put this album on hold. It kind of forced us to do some non-traditional things with the percussion too. I don’t think there’s any traditional drum set kick snare, cymbals, that sort of thing on the songs. We just tried to mix it up. We used chimes, we used hand claps, we hit weights with a stick…

Jake: All the stuff we had laying around in our practice spot. Just trying to not do things we’d done before.

Josh: As we were working on it, we had this feeling that this is going to be something that people are either really into or they’re really not into. It’s going to elicit some response from people, whether positive or negative.

<a data-cke-saved-href=”http://falsepterodactyl.bandcamp.com/album/lo” href=”http://falsepterodactyl.bandcamp.com/album/lo”>LO by False Pterodactyl</a>

On international response to their music:

Jake: We have a fan in Vancouver. We’ve sent some CD’s to Australia.

Josh: We’re on all these random Russian torrent sites, so we have people that’ll download our stuff from Russia or Eastern Europe [laughing]. It’s wild. It’s not a ton of them, but they’re out there.

On being a DIY band:

Josh: It’s nice having complete creative control over everything and book where we want to tour. [But] that is difficult to do on your own because you got to get used to being told no. It’s tough… because you feel like it’s a part of you that’s being put out there.

On “making it” as a WV band:

Jake: I feel like if we were a country band and doing good, it would fall together. Because that’s what people listen to around here.  

On being a dynamic duo:

Josh: [Jake’s] the James Taylor, and I’m the John Bonham. Except I don’t want to say that, that’s very…

Jake: No, you’re better than John Bonham.

Josh: [Laughing] Yeah, he sucked.

'A Change of Tune' Interviews Goodwolf

This week, “A Change of Tune” host Joni Deutsch chats with West Virginia rocker Tyler Grady about his new solo project. Grady branched out from Morgantown group Sleepwalker with a relatively new pop-rock side gig called Goodwolf, which just released its sophomore record titled Car in the Woods with the help of West Virginia mega-producer Bud Carroll. If you’re a fan of rambunctious pop influenced by ‘90s rock, this interview and music are recommended for you.   

Joni: So Goodwolf is your solo project, that’s what you’re touring for now, but you were previously in the band Sleepwalker. How did Sleepwalker turn into Goodwolf?

Tyler Grady: It didn’t necessarily turn into Goodwolf so much as Sleepwalker had some downtime when our friend [and Sleepwalker band member] David F. Bello moved to New York. We just had some downtime and didn’t know exactly what we were going to do, and I decided that it might be good to do my own thing. It kind of evolved from there.

And you’re still friends with Sleepwalker. It’s not like you hate each other.

TG: Oh sure. We play shows. We actually have a show on New Year’s Eve with AC30, William H. Matheny and Rozwell Kid at the V Club in Huntington.

You’re still based in Morgantown. How’s the music culture been for making new music?

TG: As far as the way any small town music scene goes, Morgantown waxes and wanes, and we’re generally on a four-year cycle as far as the students are concerned versus the people that stick around. Consistently playing music in a place the size of Morgantown is generally a challenge, but we’ve been lucky to have great music venues and people encouraging us for the last few years.

Being a Morgantown artist, what are your thoughts on the negative press WVU’s been getting? Do you think that’s going to effect the Morgantown music scene in the future, maybe with regulations?

TG: It’s interesting. You would think that that part of student life plays a larger role in the independent music based around Morgantown. But to be honest, the people who are interested in being creative and making music are generally not tied up in the scene with the riots and whatever happens at fraternities. That’s not to say that anyone from a fraternity couldn’t be part of the music scene; obviously, I encourage everyone to do that. But it generally doesn’t have too much of an effect. I have to be honest and say that destruction is part of creation in a lot of ways. There’s always this sort of fatalistic positivity that permeates through basically everything that happens around the riots. There’s a “we’ll do better next time” kind of mentality, but unfortunately, I think the cops will get better than the students.

Going back into the music with Car in the Woods, what was the recording process like for the record?

TG: It was great. I recorded it with Bud [Carroll], who plays bass, guitar and keyboards, and does some programming on it. We kind of locked ourselves away for two or three weekends, and we kind of went in with a lot of ideas communicated over the Internet. When it came time to record, we kind of shut ourselves away and did it until it was right.

So you recorded it in West Virginia and Morgantown?

Bud Carroll: At my house in Cabell County, just outside of Barboursville. The studio’s in my home, so a lot of times people just stay with me and work on stuff.

Do you have any interesting stories about the recording process?

We played one track, “Rechico,” which we played seventeen or eighteen times in a row before we got the basic track for it. Each one was always like, “Oh man, that was good, but we’re gonna…”

BC: “We’re going break through it.” I’m kind of bad about that, like drilling people to get them working to get the music right as opposed to editing it in audio later. It’s like really trying to make music together.

TG: It worked out.

Would you say there’s a theme to this record?

TG: What normally happens is I write a bunch of songs, throw the really crappy ones away, keep the couple that I like, throw them together and then start making up stories about what it’s supposed to be about later on once people start asking questions. I’m not good at like, “Oh, this song is definitely about this particular time at this particular place.” It’s generally like a collection of random thoughts kind of smashed together and put to music.

I guess you could do a MadLibs kind of thing for the future, like a template where you could fill in the blanks with adjectives for song meanings.

TG: [Laughing] That would feel like cheating. It’s not completely that way. There are definitely songs that have specific meaning to me, but there are other songs that are more like ideas that work well together.

You mentioned “Rechico” before. You just did a music video for the it a couple weeks ago.

TG: I wanted to make another music video with Geoff Hoskinson, but he’s an extremely busy doing music videos for Sufjan Stevens and Chad Fair and people much more important than me. So I tried to think. I’m not good with doing concepts for music videos, so a good way to kind of go into this without much of a concept was having fun with your friends on the Internet, which is what we do anyways.

I was trying to look at all the artwork with Goodwolf’s records, and it looked like Haypeep, Sage Perrot, did some.

TG: Yeah, she did a sticker. She’s a really great printmaker and a really talented visual artist. And Brad Pierce did the album cover for Car in the Woods. He’s amazing too, a really great visual artist.

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Album artwork for “Car in the Woods.”

So Car in the Woods… What is it?

TG: It’s a really place. There’s an abandoned street in Morgantown, and parked on this abandoned street, which has been overtaken by the forest, is a car that has also been overtaken by the forest. We discovered it one time when a friend of ours was walking his dog. You may know [West Virginia Public Radio News reporter] Roxy Todd; her dog Gromit and her boyfriend Joey and I were walking around Morgantown, Gromit was kind of going off into different places and we just happened upon this car in the woods in the middle of the day. It was like, “This would be a great place to go after the bar closes down with a six-pack of beer,” and we did that often. We would go hang out at Car in the Woods after shows and talk about everything. The record’s called Car in the Woods because generally all of my albums reflect people I know and everybody in one place. It reminds me of Car in the Woods and hanging out with good buddies.

Where in Morgantown is that?

TG: I can’t exactly say because I’m not entirely sure we’re allowed to be there. [Laughing] But it’s in Morgantown. Some people might ruin it for the rest of us.

Each time I talk to a West Virginia artist or band, I ask them about staying in West Virginia versus moving elsewhere to make music. Do you think Morgantown will be a place for you to stay for music? Do you think you’ll need to move to make music?

TG: [Laughing] This is a question I ask myself more than interviewers ask. There’s a lot of West Virginia pride, there’s a lot to be said about working hard and coming from a place like West Virginia. At the same time, it’s not necessarily a place where we can blow up and be famous. We’ll not going to be on an A-list movie soundtrack tomorrow. But that’s the attitude that brings us back down. How many bands are from West Virginia, what kind of perspective can we have from being here versus musicians who move to New York or wherever else is a hot place for music. I really feel everyone who’s from West Virginia can probably identity with the idea of the love/hate relationship with it. At the same time, I think we hold a really unique position with the state, and I’d like to work with that for as long as possible. That’s not to say at some point I won’t move away for a little while, but for now, Morgantown is great.

What else do you want people to know about you, Goodwolf or the record?

TG: I’m really proud with what we were able to create. We worked really hard on it, and it means a lot to us. We want everyone to see the cool thing we did.

BC: Being somebody who works on a ton of different music all the time, a lot of times you work on stuff and just try do a really good job on it. But for me, who’s worked with tons and tons of people, this is a rare opportunity for me to do something where, even though I was hired to do the job, I’m so excited because of how much I believe in the material. It’s awesome to do something that you know is awesome as opposed to, “Like me, like me, like the stuff that I did.” We know it’s good, we love it…

TG: And we want to share it.

Goodwolf just released “Car in the Woods” through Twin Cousins Records, and Tyler Grady will be on tour this winter (find out dates over on Goodwolf’s Facebook). You can hear new music from Goodwolf on Joni Deutsch’s “A Change of Tune” this Saturday at 10 PM EST on West Virginia Public Radio.  

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