School discipline has been a key legislative issue for several years. As part of the new committee hearing process, the House Education committee spent two days discussing House Bill 2515.
The bill aims to expand teachers’ ability to remove disruptive students from grades kindergarten through six. But the bill also has further requirements including suspension of the unruly student and placement in alternative education.
HB 2515 is functionally identical to Senate Bill 614, which failed to pass the House on the final day of session last year.
Lindsey McIntosh, general counsel for Kanawha County Schools, spoke to both Education committees about the bill’s legal implications in 2024. She appeared again Monday to voice the same concerns, namely that the bill’s requirements that a student be removed from their classroom and be assessed run into existing federal requirements for the treatment of students with special needs.
“And nine times out of 10, if you are dealing with a student that has the kicking, the biting, the spitting, all of that stuff in an elementary classroom, you are going to have to do a manifestation even if they haven’t already been identified, or even if this legislation does not pass,” McIntosh said.
McIntosh is referring to a procedure in which administrators determine whether a student’s behavior was caused by, or a manifestation of, their disability.
“Because at that point, at least in Kanawha County, we would have hoped that we would have already identified them as special ed if they were special ed eligible,” McIntosh said. “If they weren’t, then what this legislation does is automatically push them into special education, thus stating that they need a manifestation for the removal, thus not doing, I think, what’s intended here, which is stating that the child can be removed, because the child cannot be removed without that manifestation meeting, and it will manifest.”
Jim Brown, executive director for the West Virginia School Board Association, raised the issue of funding for the alternative education settings the bill says students will be sent to. He said he is only aware of 13 such programs in the entire state. Regardless of programs being established, Brown said staffing would remain a barrier.
“They are not in control, but we’re going to remove them into an alternative setting that doesn’t exist, and probably that alternative setting, I think we all know this, a couple thousand teacher shortages, vacancies across the state,” Brown said. “So who are going to be the teachers that are going to be in this classroom? Well, it’s not going to be a certified behavior specialist. It’s probably not going to be a core elementary behavior or a teacher. It’s maybe what we used to call a 5202 sub. It’s somebody that has got a four year degree, not in education, and they can go through a training, become certified to be a teacher without any training.”
Brown said the bill’s actions will not address the core issue causing serious behavioral issues in students so young.
“The bill talks about student discipline, but in fact, the real issue here isn’t student discipline. It is really about the mental health issues. A lot of these kids come to us as early as preschool with these behaviors,” he said.
Changes Based On Testimony
The bill was taken up again by the House Education committee for markup and passage Tuesday afternoon.
Based on the testimony heard Monday, a committee substitute for HB 2515 changed key aspects of the bill including the definition of violent, threatening or intimidating behaviour that would trigger a students’ removal.
The committee substitute also makes an evaluation permissive rather than mandatory, potentially avoiding the conflict with federally required procedures McIntosh identified.
Del. Mike Pushkin, D-Kanawha, said he was happy to see the changes made based on the testimony given Monday in the new committee hearing process. But he remained skeptical of removing students from established learning environments without proper alternatives in place.
“That seems like the new process worked in that regard we have, I do have a better bill than we had yesterday. I am concerned that without the appropriate resources, though, that this is still going to, could lead to some of the children who need our help the most slipping through the cracks and not getting any education.
The committee substitute was recommended to the full House for passage. More discipline bills are expected to move in the coming weeks.