A Discussion On Homeschooling, This West Virginia Morning

On this West Virginia Morning, Randy Yohe sat down with public school teacher Del. Jeff Stephens, R-Marshall, and Sen. Patricia Rucker, R-Jefferson, Chair of the Senate School Choice Committee, for a discussion on homeschooling.

On this West Virginia Morning, about 20,000 West Virginia children are homeschooled, with the numbers growing every day. Some in state education and the West Virginia Legislature help champion school choice, while others worry about the quality of the education and the safety of homeschooled children.  

For The Legislature Today, Randy Yohe sat down with public school teacher Del. Jeff Stephens, R-Marshall, and Sen. Patricia Rucker, R-Jefferson, Chair of the Senate School Choice Committee, for a discussion.

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Lawmakers Talk Homeschooling In W.Va.

On this episode of The Legislature Today, about 20,000 West Virginia children are homeschooled, with that numbers growing every day. Some officials in state education and the West Virginia Legislature help champion school choice. Others worry about the quality of the education and the safety of homeschooled children.  

On this episode of The Legislature Today, about 20,000 West Virginia children are homeschooled, with that numbers growing every day. Some officials in state education and the West Virginia Legislature help champion school choice. Others worry about the quality of the education and the safety of homeschooled children.  

Randy Yohe sat down with public school teacher Del. Jeff Stevens, R-Marshall, and Sen. Patricia Rucker, R-Jefferson, chair of the Senate School Choice Committee, to discuss all things homeschooling.

In the House, spirited debate echoed through the chamber. Bills on third reading included a bill on what air monitoring systems can be used in court, and another bill toughening laws on copper theft. Randy Yohe has more.

In the Senate, the chamber passed four bills and sent them to the House for consideration.

Also, student discipline continues to be an issue in West Virginia schools, and lawmakers continue to try and address the issue through legislation. A bill in the Senate is trying to expand on a law that was passed last year. Chris Schulz has more.

Finally, it was Food and Farm Day at the Capitol, and the emphasis was on West Virginia farmers getting legislative help to better market their produce and products. Randy Yohe has more.

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Hope Scholarship Applicants Top 6,000 In Second Enrollment Session

More than 6,000 West Virginia students’ families have signed up for the Hope Scholarship savings account that allows them to take state money and apply it to tuition for private schools.

More than 6,000 West Virginia students’ families have signed up for the Hope Scholarship savings account that allows them to take state money and apply it to tuition for private and homeschool.  

State Treasurer Riley Moore, whose office administers the school choice program, spoke to Randy Yohe about the process of getting and using a Hope Scholarship and the growing numbers who want to opt out of the public school system.

This interview has been lightly edited for clarity. 

Yohe: You’ve got your final application numbers in. This is really the first, full Hope Scholarship enrollment session that ended on May 15 with more than 6,000 applications. Was that number expected?

Moore: It kind of tracked where we thought it could be. We came in at 6,323 students. Most of that growth came from kindergartners, and that’s where we saw most of the growth from the numbers in the prior year. To be clear, these applications that we received include students that are currently Hope Scholarship students because they must reapply every year. The application deadline ended on May 15. That does not mean that you need to be approved by May 15. You just had to submit your application by May 15. My office has 45 days to approve that application. It generally never takes that long. 

Yohe: Do you expect that number to continue to increase? 

Moore: I think it will increase on the kindergarten side. I estimate it is probably between 1,500 and 2,000 students a year. We’ll have, in addition to that, maybe some others wanting to leave public school. We’re not seeing huge numbers of folks leaving public school since the initial tranche of that was in the year prior. Where you’re going to see a large number of people come into this program is 2026. That, by law, is when the program opens up to everybody. That means current private school children and current homeschooled children could then apply for Hope Scholarship in 2026. Currently, you have to either be a rising kindergartener, or in public school for 45 days to apply.

Yohe: If my figures are right, the more than 5,000 students that you believe will be eligible will cost the program more than $22 million. What is the Hope Scholarships budget?

Moore: It’s roughly around there. Because we have an estimate. The long term budget number on this, once it opens up in 2026, is probably $150 million a year.

Yohe: What’s the main reason that you see families applying for scholarships?

Moore: I think people want to exercise some educational options and choices. This is about educational freedom. It’s about individuals being able to utilize their tax dollars in the manner that they see fit to educate their children. Some people certainly want to remain and continue in their public school system and they like the school that they’re in. Some would like to send their kids to, say a christian school, a catholic school or what have you, some type of parochial education, and I think that’s great. 

Yohe: I’ve noticed a number of church marquees that say apply for the Hope Scholarship, both in Huntington where I live and around the state. 

Moore: Catholic schools like the ones in Huntington or Charleston, in Morgantown, Martinsburg, Wheeling, they’re everywhere. Using those Catholic schools as an example, there is a capacity, right? I mean, they can’t take unlimited amounts of children. So, I think that’s going to be kind of a natural backstop in terms of an explosion in growth. I do think it will probably spur growth, perhaps in this Catholic school system over time. You’re talking about having to build new buildings and things of that nature. But then also you have the ability to homeschool your children with these dollars as well. And we have seen some individuals decide to exercise that, and I think that you’ll have some more homeschool families apply for this in the future as well, particularly after 2026.

Yohe:  We’ve also seen a statewide advertising campaign. I’m seeing a lot of billboards, and heard some advertising on the radio. I’m not sure if it’s in television media or newspapers, but talk about the impetus for your Hope Scholarship advertising campaign.

Moore: That is actually outside organizations that have been advertising this program. We’ve not done a tremendous amount of advertising in this office, just because we’ve seen outside groups doing it. As good stewards of the taxpayer dollars, we didn’t feel like we needed to double down on money that’s already being spent.

Yohe: There was a mention at the state Board of Education meeting last week that there was possibly some Hope Scholarship money that was used out of state.

Moore: That is actually permissible. The way the legislation was enacted allows Hope Scholarship funds to be used out of state, there is a provision that allows for that. Let’s say, if you live in the Eastern Panhandle of West Virginia, there’s not a lot of private school options there. There’s actually no Catholic High School in the entire Eastern Panhandle. So, West Virginia residents can send their children to out of state schools with Hope Scholarship money.

Yohe: The scholarship amount varies every year. For the 2023-24 school year, it will be $4,488.82. What do those funds basically go towards?

Moore: Generally, it’s going towards tuition, but it can also apply to school uniforms, books, tutors. We’ve talked about homeschool, so that entire curriculum, which would also involve materials and books and things of that nature. There are qualified expenses that are approved by the board around those that have scholarships. You can’t just spend it on whatever you want. These dollars go into a digital wallet, we don’t send out checks for people to just go ahead and buy whatever they think is permissible. There’s a safeguard measure in this, and this is audited internally as well.

School Choice And A New Study Sheds Light On Financial Costs Of Suicide, This West Virginia Morning

On this West Virginia Morning, from the Hope Scholarship to charter schools, West Virginia’s educational landscape has changed in the last few years. Often driven by legislation, supporters of the “school choice” movement have more options now than ever before.

On this West Virginia Morning, from the Hope Scholarship to charter schools, West Virginia’s educational landscape has changed in the last few years. Often driven by legislation, supporters of the “school choice” movement have more options now than ever before.

Education Reporter Chris Schulz sat down with Del. Kathie Hess Crouse, R-Putnam, and Sen. Rollan Roberts, R-Raleigh, to discuss how things have changed.

Also, in this show, a study from West Virginia University recently looked at the financial costs of self-injury deaths like suicide or overdose as a way to make people pay more attention to the problem.

Appalachia Health News Reporter Emily Rice spoke with Ian Rockett, one of the authors of the study.

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Lawmakers Discuss School Choice; Campus Carry Bill Sees Public Debate

On this episode of The Legislature Today, from the Hope Scholarship to charter schools, West Virginia’s educational landscape has changed in the last few years. Education Reporter Chris Schulz sat down with Del. Kathie Hess Crouse, R-Putnam, and Sen. Rollan Roberts, R-Raleigh, to discuss.

On this episode of The Legislature Today, from the Hope Scholarship to charter schools, West Virginia’s educational landscape has changed in the last few years. Education Reporter Chris Schulz sat down with Del. Kathie Hess Crouse, R-Putnam, and Sen. Rollan Roberts, R-Raleigh, to discuss.

Also, with another university campus mass shooting earlier this week, legislative and public debate Wednesday morning on the Campus Self-Defense Act fostered heightened emotion from both sides. Will allowing the concealed carry of firearms on campuses add more protection or create more danger? Government Reporter Randy Yohe has this report.

Residential substance use disorder service facilities will be required to offer discharged patients a way home if Senate Bill 243 passed the Senate. Appalachia Health News Reporter Emily Rice has more.

Finally, Wednesday was Black Policy Day at the West Virginia Legislature. As Chris Schulz reports, it’s an opportunity for advocates to highlight the issues facing Black West Virginians to legislators.

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Charter School Expansion Bill Heads Back To House After Senate Makes Changes

A bill expanding West Virginia’s current charter school law is now heading back to the House of Delegates after seeing a handful of changes in the Senate.

HB 2012 allows for up to 10 brick-and-mortar public charter schools to be established in the state by 2023. The bill also allows for the creation of two, statewide virtual public charter schools, as well as one local virtual charter per county.

The two statewide schools would be each permitted to enroll up to 5 percent of the current public school population in the state, while a local county virtual charter would be permitted to enroll up to 10 percent of a county’s headcount enrollment.

Supporters of the legislation have said that by creating several schooling options for families, it enhances school choice and gives students the opportunity to find the right learning model for them.

“The point of providing choice is that you are empowering families, whatever makeup they may be, to have a choice to improve their kids’ lives,” said Senate Education Chair Sen. Patricia Rucker, R-Jefferson, during her closing remarks on the bill Monday. “Charter schools have been found to especially help minorities, low-income and single families.”

The bill adds other new sections, such as an additional authorizer, meaning an entity that can approve a charter school in the state. The new authorizer, called the West Virginia Professional Charter School Board, would be bipartisan and made up of state lawmakers and appointees by the governor. County school boards as well as the state school board may still act as authorizers, according to the bill.

Sen. Richard Lindsay, D-Kanawha, took issue with the new authorizer and its potential power.

“What this bill seeks to do is to add another layer of government called the West Virginia Professional Charter School Board, that will be empowered to authorize our charter schools, potentially over the objection of the county board of education,” Lindsay argued on the Senate floor. “Let that sink in a moment. The folks who’ve been elected to make decisions about education in their respective counties can be overrun and overwhelmed.”

Sen. William Ihlenfeld, D-Ohio, also spoke against the bill saying it doesn’t go far enough to ensure that underperforming districts will be prioritized.

“We have this opportunity to bring those scores up. How do you bring the scores up? You find those who are struggling the most, who have the least opportunity, and you reach out to them,” Ihlenfeld said. “They’re the ones who are pulling us down, not because they want to, but because they don’t have the opportunities that other kids have.”

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Sen. Richard Lindsay, D-Kanawha, (right) speaks with Sen. William Ihlenfeld, D-Ohio, (left) on the Senate floor on March 1, 2021.

An amendment was offered last week by Senate Minority Leader Stephen Baldwin, D-Greenbrier, to require charters to set up in underperforming areas, but the amendment was rejected, citing the state’s current charter law, which already encourages this, but does not require it.

Sen. Mike Romano, D-Harrison, has repeatedly voiced his concern on the virtual public charter school model. Under the bill, the virtual public charter schools receive the same level of funding as brick-and-mortar public charters.

“The virtual charter schools cause me the most concern,” said Romano. “Virtual charter schools don’t have any buildings. They don’t have any desks. They don’t have lockers. They don’t have any cooks. They don’t have any janitors. They don’t have any security … Where’s that extra money going to go?”

Democrats overwhelmingly stood to speak against the bill, while Rucker was the only one to speak in favor. She responded to some of the concerns voiced by Democrats, including the financial concern brought up by Romano.

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Sen. Mike Romano, D-Harrison, asks questions on HB 2012 during a Senate floor session on March 1, 2021.

“Those virtuals, as my fellow senator pointed out, might not have to heat a building,” Rucker said. “But they do have to worry about the technology. They do have to make certain that their students have what they need in order to be able to go online. In addition to that, they do have buildings. They do have teachers teaching these classes, they still have all of the benefits that, you know, an employee gets. They still have all of those costs.”

The bill also adds some clarification on reasons a charter would be forced to close, such as for misappropriation of funds or for fraud. Under the bill, a charter school can also act as its own Local Education Agency, or LEA, once it has been approved. An LEA, as defined by the U.S. Department of Education, has administrative control and direction.

The bill narrowly passed through the Senate 19-14 with three Republicans voting alongside Democrats to reject the bill.

Since the bill was amended by the Senate, the House now must approve the changes before the bill can head to the governor for a signature.

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