Forced Pooling Resurfaces in W.Va. Legislature

Two bills that both died on the final night of the 2015 legislative session, resurfaced Monday during interim meetings – forced pooling and public charter schools. Both ideas erupted in debate in 2015, but Monday’s discussions were calm and reflective – but not without some concerns.

The separate discussions Monday on forced pooling and charter schools were mostly on how to make these controversial pieces of legislation work for lawmakers and interested parties on both sides of the issues.

First, forced pooling –

Delegate Woody Ireland chairs the House Energy Committee and sponsored the forced pooling legislation during the 2015 session. He told his fellow lawmakers Monday they must do something about pooling, even if they don’t all agree.

Forced pooling works like this – When companies prepare to drill a well, they create a giant rectangle of land parcels and then negotiate with the mineral owners within that rectangle for their gas rights.

The 2015 bill would have allowed companies to force owners to sell their minerals if they could get 80 percent of the owners in their parcel to agree to the drilling. However, the 20 percent forced to sell would still get paid for their proportion of gas drilled.

Democrats and some tea party Republicans were strongly against the bill, even showing their discontent through demonstrations on the floor. On the final night, the bill died on a tie vote in the House.

Now, Delegate Ireland has proposed a new pooling bill.

“With the passage of this bill, it would create a lot of land owner protections that currently aren’t available,” explained Seth Gaskins, counsel to the committees on Energy, “and the new title for the bill is the Horizontal Well Unitization of Landowner Protection Act. We wanted to make sure that this bill is known as a protection bill as well as a pooling bill.”

One aspect of this new bill would clarify the royalty rights of mineral owners. It would protect owners from deductions if they are included in a pool without their consent.

But there’s more – Ireland is also proposing what he calls a companion bill to compliment the Horizontal Well Unitization of Landowner Protection Act.

“This bill attempts to create some transparency,” Gaskins said, “in the royalty payment process as well as institute or establish rather, reporting more frequent report of production…reporting of production data to the office of oil and gas.”

While there was little debate during the meeting, a couple lawmakers did express some concern over the two new draft bills, but Ireland says the legislature has to make pooling a priority.

“I think what we have currently is an opportunity to really improve on personal property rights,” Ireland said, “If you look at the statutes that includes forced pooling from the deep strata, and you look at what’s going on in the industry with a movement towards the Utica shale, which is a deep strata, so if we don’t do something, we basically have forced pooling already.”

The second controversial piece of legislation taken up during November interims Monday – public charter schools.

The 2015 bill on charter schools also died on the final night but not quite as loudly as forced pooling.

Public Charter Schools receive state and county funds just like regular public schools, but charter schools are not held to the same regulations as regular public schools. This in turn would give teachers at charter schools more flexibility in the way they deliver their curriculum, but they would still be subject to state education standards.

Lawmakers in the Joint Standing Committee on Education revisited the idea Monday and were presented statistics that showed increased test scores and creativity. Other studies, however, show charter schools do not increase student achievement and actually hurt low income and minority students. But Monday, lawmakers were presented with a new concern; lower rates of pay for educators.

“I’d say our teacher with twenty-eight years experience all-together is probably gonna make $38,000 and the teacher at the traditional public school is probably gonna make $58,000,” Susie Pierce said, the principal of the Rural Community Academy; a charter school in Graysville, Indiana.

Some lawmakers expressed concerns over how to attract and keep teachers in charter schools if they’re going to be paid less than traditional public school teachers.

Delegate Amanda Pasdon, a Co-Chair on the Joint Education Committee, says she’s looking forward to continuing the discussion in 2016.

“I’m glad that they were honest about their challenges,” Pasdon noted, “because what we’d like to do in West Virginia is take note of the challenges that other states have faced. We’re not reinventing the wheel, so we can learn from their successes and then also be aware of their challenges, so we know how to navigate them a little better.”

Is "Right to Work" Right for W.Va.?

Interim meetings at the state capitol are usually laid back. Lawmakers attend their meetings and sometimes meet with a spare group of lobbyists and constituents.

Sunday, however, the House Government Organization Committee Room was overflowing. Men and women in union t-shirts filled the audience seats, the hallway and even the stairwells outside. What drew the crowd? A proposed piece of legislation that would make West Virginia a Right to Work state.

Dozens of union members attended a joint committee meeting Sunday making their opposition for Right to Work legislation clear.

For two hours, the Joint Committee on the Judiciary met to discuss possible Right to Work legislation and how it might affect West Virginia.

Right to Work laws prohibit certain types of agreements between labor unions and employers. The most commonly used example would prohibit a union from collecting dues from people in a workplace who do not wish to be part of the union.

Currently twenty-five states in the U.S. have Right to Work laws including Virginia, Tennessee, Florida, and Michigan.

Even though union members turned out by the dozens Sunday in opposition, Senate Majority Leader, Mitch Carmichael of Jackson County believes Right to Work laws actually make unions stronger.

“This is not an anti-union bill at all, Right to Work,” Carmichael said, “It does not in any way inhibit a person’s ability to join a union, to support it financially; all it does is give the individual the choice, the choice, the freedom to choose whether they want to be a part of the union.”

But Kenny Perdue disagrees. Perdue is the President of the West Virginia AFL-CIO and says Right to Work laws have hurt not just union workers, but all workers in the states that have approved them.

“There is a lot of evidence that a worker will make $6,000 less on a year in a Right to Work state,” Perdue noted, “There is evidence out there at the Bureau of Labor Statistics that an individual that works in a Right to Work state is 54.4 percent more likely to get hurt or killed on a job. We look at other states that like Kansas, Wisconsin, and Minnesota and they’re not doing well at all.”

Senator Herb Snyder, a Democrat from Jefferson County, says there isn’t enough evidence that a Right to Work law would help West Virginia progress economically.

“There’s absolutely no guarantee there would be any benefit whatsoever. That clearly, analytically showed that there are so many factors and drawing in keeping businesses, topography, age, education levels, and everything else,” Snyder explained, “It was very clear that wages go down, go down significantly statewide. We’re already second from the bottom, and why we’re having a discussion about lowering wages is just…perplexes me.”

Senate Majority Leader Carmichael says the laws will not lower wages in the state, but instead promote job growth. He says he’ll support passing a Right to Work law.

“What’s good for everyone for the majority of people is what we’re interested in,” Carmichael said, “and we hope that airing this issue out and discussing it in more detail will provide an education to the entire population that shows Right to Work gives another tool in the economic development box in West Virginia to keep our families together, to provide jobs and hope and opportunity for our citizens.”

Right to Work, like last session’s debate over prevailing wage, is likely to be at the forefront of controversial issues during the 2016 session.

Four Percent of W.Va. Adults are Prescription Drug Abusers

The country will turn its eyes to Charleston this week as President Obama makes a trip to the capital city Wednesday. He’ll hold a town hall style meeting with West Virginians focused on substance abuse. The issue, however, has weighed heavy on the minds of state lawmakers over the past several years and continues to be a topic of conversation in the Legislature. During interim meetings Sunday, legislators began to look at the effects substance abuse is having on the state’s workforce and how they can combat the problem.

We all know substance abuse is a problem in West Virginia, but exactly how much of a problem?

Seven members of the Legislative Oversight Commission on Workforce Investment for Economic Development heard Sunday from Jay Otto – a research scientist at the Center for Health and Safety Culture at Montana State University.

Otto says West Virginians often misjudge the prevalence of addicted individuals in the state.

“So in our survey work, we find that often people drastically overestimate let’s say the number of adults who are misusing prescription drugs. It is high, the survey work in West Virginia indicating it’s in the 4 percent range, that’s a very large number, but it’s by no means what sometimes people perceive it to be as being 40, 50, 60, 70 percent,” he noted, “So the key message is most adults do not abuse substances and we’re very concerned with those who do.”

Otto says while West Virginians perceive substance abuse as a major problem, the state actually falls around the middle of substance abuse usage compared to the rest of the country.

“In some ways, we’re at the top of the list sometimes in terms of rates, and rates can be hard to interpret, because it also depends upon size of the state. We’re actually not at the highest rate for the misuse of prescription drugs as a percentage; there are many states that are higher than us.

What cannot be denied, though, it the high rate of overdose deaths. According to a 2015 report from the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, there are 34 overdose deaths for every 100,000 people in the state.

“We are at a high rate of fatality overdoses associated with that. That can be hard to interpret, that can also be because we’re very rural, so individuals don’t have fast access to emergency services or getting to a hospital, so it’s very complicated when we look at something like a fatality rate as opposed to a usage rate. In terms of our usage levels, we’re not at the highest levels.”

So how do we combat it? Otto told lawmakers one of the best resources to battle substance abuse is talking about it in the workplace.

“Sometimes we have misperceptions that the work of prevention is only with youth, and a big message we need to get out is no, we want to do prevention across the age span, and there’s a lot we can do with adults. Adults aren’t in school, but they are in workplaces, so workplaces become a great opportunity to do some things.”

Otto says there’s not a silver bullet to solve substance abuse problems, but there are strategies to bring about prevention, and he says lawmakers can have a big hand in that.

“Continuing to invest in treatment across the state, or prevention across the state, which is growing and becoming more and more effective every day. I think looking at some of those big picture policy issues, in particular around the tobacco tax and an alcohol tax. We know that at the state level, these are things that can have a tremendous impact by increasing the cost of those substances, we will decrease use.”

Delegate Paul Espinosa, a Republican from Jefferson County and the chairman of the committee on Workforce Investment for Economic Development says he’s eager to continue the conversation this session, particularly about rehabilitation for employees.

“I think some of our members raised a very important issue from an employer perspective is how do you work through some of those issues related to individuals who have been convicted of a crime, particularly if there was a felony conviction,” Espinosa explained, “I know many businesses that would very much like to give those folks a second chance; you know particularly if they’ve demonstrated if they’ve gone through an appropriate program to address those issues they have with substance abuse, however there are liability issues I know many businesses are concerned about. So those are certainly things that I anticipate this committee will continue to look at and the legislature as a whole I think will need to examine.”

So far, Senate Minority Leader Jeff Kessler has committed to introducing a tobacco tax increase to help fund substance abuse treatment across the state. Members of the majority have not yet released any specific ideas for the upcoming session on how to take on the issue.

BOE Recommends Lawmakers Revisit State Aid Formula

A committee appointed by the West Virginia Board of Education has spent the past 18 months studying how they can better provide services regionally to the county school systems. They presented the final report to lawmakers yesterday which included a recommendation for the upcoming session.

Tom Campbell, a member of the West Virginia Board of Education, recommends senators and delegates take a second look at the state aid formula this year. That formula determines how much state funding each county receives based on the number of students in their schools.

Campbell argued smaller counties are having trouble providing basic services because as their student population shrinks, so do their state dollars.

“There’s so much variation in the state,” noted Campbell, “and what’s been coming so much more different than it used to be is the difference in size of the small counties to the large counties. It’s a larger disparity, and the small counties are getting so small that there’s certain basic expenses that have to be provided.”

He says he’d like to see the legislature reconsider how much aid is going to those smaller counties regardless of the number of students they serve.

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