Bathroom Ban, Arming Teachers Focus Of House Education Committee Meeting

The House Committee on Education spent the better part of a two hour meeting Wednesday discussing two bills. One would restrict bathroom use in schools based on sex, and another would help arm teachers. 

The House Committee on Education spent the better part of a two hour meeting Wednesday discussing two bills. One would restrict bathroom use in schools based on sex, and another would help arm teachers. 

Bills restricting the use of school facilities by transgender students – namely bathrooms and locker rooms – have gained popularity across the country in recent years.

House Bill 4806 as described in the meeting “would prohibit public school students the use of multiple occupancy restrooms or changing areas within schools for the gender that the students were not assigned at birth.” 

Minority chair Del. Mike Pushkin, D-Kanawha, pointed out early in discussion of the bill that the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals, which includes West Virginia, had recently ruled against a similar bill in Virginia. 

Pushkin invited Interim Executive Director for the American Civil Liberties Union of West Virginia Eli Baumwell to discuss the court ruling’s impact. Puskin asked Baumwell if ACLU-WV would challenge the bill in court if it passed.

“Well, it wouldn’t be proper for me to speculate on potential litigation,” Baumwell said. “What I will say is based on controlling law here in West Virginia, I think there’s an extremely high likelihood that any challenge would cause the law to be both enjoined and eventually overturned, again, based on recent controlling precedent.”

Pushkin clarified that there was no reason to believe HB 4806 would have a different result in the courts and said a legal challenge would cost the state money. He went on to question the bill’s sponsor, Del. Dave Foggin, R-Wood, about the necessity of the bill.

“Have you received complaints from children in your district or parents in your district, regarding incidents where students felt uncomfortable in the bathroom?” Pushkin asked.

“I didn’t receive complaints, because I’m just a school teacher, but our administrators, where I teach, received several complaints,” Foggins said.

Much of the discussion time was taken up by an amendment from Minority Vice Chair Ric Griffith, D-Wayne, to create an exception for students over the age of 18 who had transitioned and updated their birth certificate.

Pushkin continued his opposition to the bill up to the final vote, calling it a solution in search of a problem. He warned the bill had the potential to harm children.

“Actually, West Virginia has a fairly high percentage of children who identify as transgender, and this will harm them,” Pushkin said. “They’re the ones who are more likely to get bullied in a public restroom. So you might think you’re doing something to protect kids, but I’m not hearing anything from kids.”

The committee voted to recommend the bill to the House, with a referral to the committee on Judiciary.

Arming Educators

Also discussed Wednesday was the possibility of allowing teachers and administrators to carry concealed firearms in school.

House Bill 4299 would designate armed staff as school protection officers or SPO’s but only with a valid West Virginia concealed carry permit and after completing the training requirements for the Prevention Resource Officer Program.

Several teachers on the committee spoke strongly in favor of the bill, including Del. David Elliott Pritt, R-Fayette. He recounted the difficulty of going through active shooter drills with the only defense for him and his students being a door and chairs.

“We live in a time where evil people walk around trying to do evil things,” Pritt said. “I’ll be damned if I’m going to sit in my classroom, and the only thing between me and someone that wants to kill me or my students is a door. So I’m going to vote for it. I urge you to vote for it as well.”

Opponents to the bill cited law enforcement opposition to such measures, given the potential confusion between an active shooter and an armed staff member. Del. Anitra Hamilton, D-Monongalia, expressed concern about bringing firearms into classrooms that have proven in recent years to be unruly and contentious. 

“I just don’t feel that teachers or SPOs, whoever is training periodically, even with a yearly evaluation, or yearly training, when you are under stress, and under duress, you act differently and you cannot predict that,” she said.

Hamilton instead pointed to measures already being taken to enhance and improve school building security across the state. 

Committee vice-chair Del. Joe Statler, R-Monongalia, said the bill is permissive, meaning it is ultimately up to each county and school board to allow school staff to conceal carry.

The committee recommended House Bill 4299 to the full chamber, also with a reference to Judiciary.

Also Discussed

The committee also discussed and moved forward five other bills:

  • H. B. 4263, Modifying the definitions and pay grades of certain school cafeteria personnel.
  • H. B. 4331, To allow money paid to state employees to go to their estate if they pass away before their retirement date.
  • H. B. 4830, To address the professional development of teachers.
  • H. B. 4832, Relating to state superintendent’s reports regarding the finances of school districts.
  • H. B. 4838, Require county boards of education to provide long-term substitute teachers, upon hiring, with certain information.

Campus Carry Bill Completes Legislation, Awaits Governor’s Signature

Divided down party lines, several of the dozen House Democrats spoke passionately against the bill, concerned with taking institutional freedom away from the many state colleges and universities opposed to campus carry.  

Emotions ran high and the rhetoric ran long as House debate closed Tuesday on the contentious campus carry firearms bill.  

Senate Bill 10, or the Campus Self-Defense Act, on third reading in the House of Delegates, would allow for the concealed carry of firearms on college campuses, with limited gun restrictions in places like stadiums, on-campus daycare and disciplinary hearings. Concealed firearms in residence halls would not be allowed in dorm rooms – but would be permitted in common areas – with a “gun locker” provided.

Divided down party lines, several of the dozen House Democrats spoke passionately against the bill, concerned with taking institutional freedom away from the many state colleges and universities opposed to campus carry.  

Del. John Williams, D-Monongalia, voiced his opposition by quoting data driven research from Johns Hopkins University on the issue.

“The authors examined the 111 high fatality mass shootings, defined as six or more murder victims that occurred in the United States since 1966. The study found that only 13 of them had taken place in a gun free zone. The report also concluded that these types of laws don’t limit gun violence on campuses, rather they increase them,” Williams said. “As for college campuses, the report notes that fights, suicide attempts and reckless behavior are more lethal when a firearm is present and are far more common among college students, in general, than opportunities for armed students to stop rampages.”

In near unison, many of the 88 House Republicans, like Del. Chris Pritt, R-Kanawha, said allowing students, faculty and staff to carry firearms on the state’s college campuses does what lawmakers are pledged to do, defend and protect the individual’s rights.

Individual rights are not circumstantial. They shouldn’t depend on where a person is, there should be no such thing as a second class constitutional right, and that’s what we’re talking about here,” Pritt said. “There’s a lot of talk about whether something may or may not happen, but there hasn’t been any talk up to this point on what it means to have an actual constitutional right. This is a right in fairness, it is fairly unique in the world. This is a right that we have as Americans, but it’s for good reason. It’s based on our history, it’s based on our founders and the trials and tribulations that they faced.”

The Campus Self-Defense Act passed 84-13. It has now completed legislation and goes to Gov. Jim Justice for his signature.

Senate Judiciary Advances Campus Carry Bill

The Senate Judiciary Committee advanced a bill to the Senate floor Thursday that would allow the concealed carry of handguns on the state’s university campuses.

The Senate Judiciary Committee advanced a bill to the Senate floor Thursday that would allow the concealed carry of handguns on the state’s university campuses.

Senate Bill 10 would allow holders of concealed handgun permits to carry concealed on all of the state’s higher education campuses, regardless of existing restrictions. The presidents of the state’s leading public universities have said they oppose the measure.

Eleven other states currently require colleges and universities to allow concealed carry including Arkansas, Kansas and Georgia which all passed similar legislation in 2017.

While SB 10 does exclude many on campus locations from concealed carry, the law ultimately limits schools’ ability to restrict handguns on campus, and requires the institutions to provide gun safes in dormitories.

Sen. Jay Taylor, R-Taylor, said the bill protects Second Amendment rights.

“This is allowing everyone to have their Second Amendment rights so that they’re able to defend themselves,” he said. “It’s a dangerous world out there, and I think when people are free to exercise their Second Amendment rights, it’s a safer world.”

Sen. Mike Caputo, D-Marion, was the sole objector to the bill, questioning the bill’s safety, as well as the financial and logistical responsibility it introduces for schools.

“I think it’s a huge burden that we’re putting on the universities,” he said. “I think it’s going to be a huge cost. I think it’s gonna be a huge headache, and I just hope and pray that we’re not having a conversation about how this was a bad idea.”

Within moments of the committee convening Wednesday afternoon, Marshall University President Brad Smith and West Virginia University President Gordon Gee tweeted out a joint statement.

“We…support local control, and we believe that our boards of governors are best suited to decide whether guns should be permitted on campus. We therefore do not support statewide campus carry,” the statement reads.

“Whether it is mental health challenges facing some students, discussion about grades, recruitment of new students and faculty, or the protection of open and honest debate of ideas, we are concerned about inserting firearms into these types of situations,” they said.

The statement also asked that if such a bill were passed, that it include best practices and safeguards related to campus carry as established in other states, such as not allowing concealed carry at venues with more than 1,000 spectators, in laboratories with hazardous substances or in campus day cares.

Many of the listed restrictions, including the above, are already included in the body of the bill.

A revised version of SB 10 was reported to the Senate at large, and is expected to be taken up on first reading Friday, Jan. 20.

Four similar bills, one in the Senate and three in the House, have been introduced so far this session primarily under the title “The Campus Self-Defense Act.”

West Virginia, 16 States Reach Gun Reciprocity Expansions

While a new law lets people 21 and older to carry covered-up guns without permits, Attorney General Patrick Morrisey says 16 states will recognize West Virginia’s expanded permits for 18- to 20-year-olds.

Morrisey says the states gave written assurances about provisional concealed carry permits for the 18- to 20-year-olds eligible under this year’s law. Previously, people needed to be 21 or older to get a state concealed carry permit.

They include Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kentucky, Michigan, Missouri, Montana, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah and Wyoming.

There wasn’t, and still isn’t, a permit required for people 18 and older to open carry, like in a holster.

Though optional in state, West Virginia concealed carry permits for people 21 and older will still be acknowledged in 35 states.

Legislature Overrides Permitless Carry Veto

Senators joined the House of Delegates in a vote to override Governor Tomblin’s veto of a bill that would allow anyone over the age of 21 to carry a concealed weapon without a permit. 

The Senate voted 23 to 11 during a Saturday morning floor session. The House had voted on the measure Friday.

Along with removing the current permitting and safety training requirements to carry a concealed weapon over the age of 21, the bill also puts a provisional licensing system in place for 18 to 20-year-olds and includes a $50 tax credit for anyone who goes through the permitting process.

The bill increases penalties for people who unlawfully carry concealed, including felons who are prohibited from carrying, or who use a weapon while committing another crime. 

Tomblin vetoed the bill Thursday during a ceremony at the Capitol, surrounded by law enforcement officers from across the state. In his veto message, Tomblin cited public safety concerns. Law enforcement also pointed to the bill’s language that would not just allow people to carry a concealed firearm, but also other weapons like knives and brass knuckles. 

A recent public opinion poll conducted by the West Virginia firm Orion Strategies found 71 percent of likely voters in the state believed people should have to get a permit in order to carry a weapon.

“This is not just a slap in the face of the Governor,” Democratic Sen. Corey Palumbo said on the Senate floor Saturday, “this is a slap in the face of the State Police, Sheriffs, municipal police, and the majority of the people of West Virginia.”

Republican Sen. Craig Blair stood to support the override, saying the measure will be a crime deterrent in the state.

“I recognize that there are issues as it relates to public opinion on this, but at the end of the day, it is a constitutional right and we really don’t see much difference between carrying in an open manner without a permit or putting a jacket on over your weapon and then being a felon,” Senate Majority Leader Mitch Carmichael said of the vote Friday.

Carmichael also said he has heard the concerns of law enforcement, but said he hopes they’ll work with lawmakers to ensure West Virginians can exercise their Constitutional rights. 

The bill will take effect in mid-May.

Permitless Carry Bill One Vote from Becoming Law

A bill to remove the permitting and safety training requirements to carry a concealed weapon in West Virginia is just one vote away from becoming law.  

Delegates voted 64 to 33 to override Governor Tomblin’s veto of House Bill 4145 Friday morning.

Surrounded by law enforcement representatives from across the state, Tomblin publicly vetoed the bill Thursday, citing public safety concerns.

Aside from removing the permitting and training requirements for people over the age of 21, the bill also sets up a provisional licensing process for 18 -to -20-year-olds and strengthens some felony laws for carrying unlawfully. 

Senate Majority Leader Mitch Carmichael expects his chamber to follow the House’s lead, even though a recent public opinion poll found 71 percent of likely West Virginian voters are opposed to the change.

“I recognize that there are issues as it relates to public opinion on this but at the end of the day, it is a constitutional right,” Carmichael said, “and we really don’t see much difference between carrying in an open manner without a permit or putting a jacket on over your weapon and then being a felon.”

The Senate is expected to vote to override the veto Saturday morning.

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